Snick60
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BLUEPOWER IP6048 - The New SunGoldPower 48V Hybrid Competitor to the MPPSolar LVX6048WP
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Snick60
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Giving me all the secrets huh lol. Appreciate ya. Getting right on it 
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️️andrewgokart
New Member
Well, almost a year later, and my IP6048 is up and running (mostly). I had already gone with TP6048 units and SungGold sent me a replacement "control board" back in July 2023 and I put it in some time ago, but the unit has been sitting in the box. Finally got it out today and connected the battery and some PV and I can't believe it... it's working! The fans are running at 100% like some others have said, but at least it's working. Now I have to figure out what to do with this unit... I don't particularly have a use for it since I've already got my TP6048 units installed in parallel. Anyone interested? ha.
andrewgokart
New Member
Appears to be roughly 120 watts. I was getting about 2.1amps (according my clamp meter) at 53ish volts or so. I would say 120 is fairly accurate. If they would just tweak the damn firmware to not have the fans running at FULL BLAST 100% of the time, that would probably help! But apparently, that's just how these are.
Lt.Dan
Solar Wizard
So much hostility.
andrewgokart
New Member
lol. It is a piece of junk from what I've seen/read and lack of it being in the market for more than 2 years (3 years?). Faults, errors, etc. Not just mine, but there is a guy on youtube who had problems with his LVX6048WP. Same things. I think there is some shoddy engineering at the circuitry level. Great capabilities (and wish I had one to put in parallel to try it with my AC unit). But lordy, this thing just scares the hell out of me to leave for any extended time away from home.So much hostility.
andrewgokart
New Member
I wonder if @Will Prowse still has his IP6048 or if it was a vendor sample that he had to send back. Would love to have him hook that thing up again and get some additional feedback on it. My neighbor wants me to help him install solar on his house now that i've done it and my IP6048 is an extra inverter, but I feel guilty selling it to him if he has problems...
Gave it away, hated it. I do know two people total that like it though.
Perhaps there is new firmware to fix all the issues when I made my video. But I don't know
Lt.Dan
Solar Wizard
There isn't. That was the first thing I asked when I had problems with mine.
andrewgokart
New Member
I saw Projects with Everyday Dave still has his in his garage. Asked him yesterday if he still uses it with his new setup and he said no problems for over a year. He's also here in Ohio, so I told him if he wants to get rid of it, I'll do some testing or we can collab. ha. The software is buggy as hell on the display, so I use the SolarPower app on a computer via RS232 and it works great.
I also just reached out to SGP a couple days ago asking for a firmware update, citing the fans running at full speed, noting I was running 1.36 on the Main (U1) and 14.04 on the secondary (U2). They just said that (paraphrasing) "the firmware doesn't control the fan speeds". No actual note that this is or is not the latest firmware. Just that it wont change the fan speeds. ugh.
andrewgokart
New Member
I'm glad to hear you got a replacement. I've installed 3 main boards, 2 AC boards, and now 1 control board (this was the problem, apparently... Not even a board that handles any high-voltage!) That 10k looks like it has good specs. Just wish it had parallel capabilities and it would be awesome! I kinda wish I could get my 6048 replaced with one, but now it's working sooooooo not gonna happen at least now.
Osmethne
Solar Enthusiast
It's complicated. This is just what I see staring at Solar Assistant while it runs.
At idle Solar Assistant claims it draws 55 watts.
But, if there's any solar power present then the idle goes up by maybe 150 watts. This is drawn from the battery if present. If a battery isn't present then I think it draws from the grid.
Additionally if there's a battery present then it seems like the logic needed to run that draws around 150 watts. Even if you're not using the battery to power the load then that draw is always there. I don't know how to make this 0 other than switching off the batteries.
For example, I currently have a bug where I'm seeing ~22 watts on mppt2 during the night. That means even if I tell it to not draw from the battery to power the house then it still draws around 300 watts an hour from the battery for nothing.
So depending on how it's configured and it's operating conditions the actual amount of power that it wastes could be around 500 or 600 watts, rough guess just looking at Solar Assistant.
Lt.Dan
Solar Wizard
Please don't go off of Solar Assistant for trying to calculate efficiency or idle consumption. Please read then notes at the bottom of your "Totals" Page on Solar Assistant:
You cannot rely on the cheap components of an Inverter to accurately report the values. Ive seen some Voltronic inverters report values not even CLOSE to what was actually happening. Even values reported from my Sol-Ark are not 100% accurate, and to all be taken with a grain of salt. If you want accurate information, then you are going to have to do it by hand with a clamp meter, DMM, and some time.
You cannot rely on the cheap components of an Inverter to accurately report the values. Ive seen some Voltronic inverters report values not even CLOSE to what was actually happening. Even values reported from my Sol-Ark are not 100% accurate, and to all be taken with a grain of salt. If you want accurate information, then you are going to have to do it by hand with a clamp meter, DMM, and some time.
Osmethne
Solar Enthusiast
Yeah I've read that somewhere. Which is why I don't think the exact number SA reports is important. The importance is that it's there at all. I have used some meters to look at a few of these numbers. I have a clamp on DC amp meter. The constant battery draw for no reason is definitely real.
I don't have my meter connected yet, but I did an experiment. I don't have battery or loads connected. Only solar and grid connected. Back feeding to grid.
I waited until solar production was just under 100W. It showed that the inverter was using power from the grid. However, when I turned off the grid, the inverter continued to work on solar only. The fans were running at the same speed for a while until the sun went down more.
So I think it's using under 100W. I guess I'll know for sure when I can get my meter running. In my opinion, anything over 50W is a lot. That's over 1kw per day at 50W already
I waited until solar production was just under 100W. It showed that the inverter was using power from the grid. However, when I turned off the grid, the inverter continued to work on solar only. The fans were running at the same speed for a while until the sun went down more.
So I think it's using under 100W. I guess I'll know for sure when I can get my meter running. In my opinion, anything over 50W is a lot. That's over 1kw per day at 50W already
Lt.Dan
Solar Wizard
I can guarantee the IP6048 has an idle draw of 100-120w, depending on where the power is coming from and/or battery voltage.
That's terrible. 2.5 kwhr per day