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BillT

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I have 8 L-16 batteries 6 volt 385 amp hrs in a 24 volt system. I would like to replace them with lifepo4 batteries.. What would you recommend replacing them with?
 
8 * 6 * 385 = 18480Wh, 9240Wh usable (50%)

8 * 3.2 * 280 = 7168Wh, 5734Wh usable (80%)

16 280Ah LFP cells arranged in a 2P8S configuration, or 2 separate 8S 24V batteries would give you 11469Wh of usable storage. Would run you about $2000.
 
Thank you for your advice. Could you explain "2 separate 8S 24V batteries" ? I like the idea of using whole batteries rather then the cells.
Thanks again
 
I like CALB LiFePo4's. I have eight 100ah cells that have been very good to me, no problems so far. I paid less than $600 shipped as well.
 
Thank you for your advice. Could you explain "2 separate 8S 24V batteries" ? I like the idea of using whole batteries rather then the cells.
Thanks again

You would simply have two batteries comprised of 8 cells each instead of a single battery in a 2P8S (16 cells) configuration. Each battery would need its own BMS.

This all presumes DIY. You could buy 10X 24V Battleborns for about $9500 for the same capacity instead of DIY for $2000.
 
If I have two 2 - 24 volt batteries (8 cells per battery) in parallel could you tell me what the charge settings would be on the charge controller?
 
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No..I am currently using 8 -L16 6 volt batteries. 4 in series for 24 volts. I have a Outback flex 80 setup.
 
Ah. The "8 cells" threw me... 8S LFP make 24V. You meant to say 8 batteries. A 6V battery has 3 cells.

There appear to be several L16 variants. Flooded or AGM? Can you supply the exact battery P/N?
 
I currently have 8 L-16 flooded batteries, 6 volt, 280 ah in a 24 volt system.

I want to switch to 2 separate 8S 24V lifepo4 batteries in parallel still 24 volts.
 
Okay, so you've mentioned they have 385Ah in your first post. 280Ah above.

I find no L-16 battery. I find a L16H as well as other variations, and it's 435Ah flooded.

Are you reading off the batteries, or are you going off memory? I'm trying to help you, so I ask that you help me help you.

Are they AGM or flooded?

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I have a Outback flex 80 setup.
I think the Flex 80 is programable so you would charge to 27 volts and set your inverter to Low Battery Cut Off to something like 25 volts to be conservative to charge LFP batteries. Whether you would float depends on your use case. Is this off grid?
 
The batteries I am using now are L16 385AH (not 280)
They are flooded batteries. The label on the battery just says L-16.

The lifepo4 battery I want to use are 280 AH.

This is off grid.
 
I find L16 XC2 but no others. Since I can't find a datasheet, I'd go with this:


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That's something of a non-standard charge cycle, so I'll omit the "finish charge" as it's essentially a tiny equalization cycle.

2.4V/cell = 28.8V bulk/absorption
Charge at 28.8V until voltage drops to 0.03*380 = 11.4A
Float at 26.04V
Equalization at 30.6V

Check all cells for proper fluid level at least once per month when fully charged and check specific gravity at least once every 90 days.
 
I think the Flex 80 is programable so you would charge to 27 volts and set your inverter to Low Battery Cut Off to something like 25 volts to be conservative to charge LFP batteries. Whether you would float depends on your use case. Is this off grid?

He's still on FLA
 
I think I'm confusing you guys.

The L16 batteries I have been using for 6 years. I don't need the charging specs on them. They are FLA batteries.
I am trying to find out how to charge the 2 separate 8S 24V lifepo4 batteries that I want to switch to.
 
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I am trying to find out how to charge the 2 separate 8S 24V lifepo4 batteries that I want to switch to.
I gave you the specs for that. You could either put the two 8 cell groups in parallel or buddy pair the 3 volt cells into one 24 volt battery. It is a matter of personal preference if you do one vs the other. It doesn't chang the charging settings.
 
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