Failed MPP system

PsychoticEpisode said:

No the real problem is people that will blindly defend a company that has not proven is worth. Many companies have been in business for years and still make cheep crap because its a global market and there are lots of new customers to rip off. You are trying to disregard actual customers that have had bad experiences. That is no different to fanboys that will make excuses for there favorite company no mater how bad they get. No company deserves loyalty for ANY resin, they must always prove there worth. If they make a bad product they must bend over backwards to make it right, not just sit back and let others fight for them.

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Hi As apposed to people blindly criticizing a system they know nothing about?
Regards

thedodgersonline said:

Hi
Absolutely you can assemble your own system using you choice of components but it will cost much more. Plenty videos of that on YouTube and in Fact I think Will has done one.
Regards

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Sure doesn't seem that it would be more expensive. And it's very not clear if the MPP would be fully up to code- not enough stuff holding wires in place and hidden away from touching.

alfaeric said:

Sure doesn't seem that it would be more expensive. And it's very not clear if the MPP would be fully up to code- not enough stuff holding wires in place and hidden away from touching.

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Hi
Not sure where you are based but go onto eBay / Amazon / AltE and price the components and you will be surprised at how quickly it will mount up. You will need a MPPT that can handle a large array and an output at 48V ( my suggestion is 48v for many reasons) a battery charger that will charge at 48V. Then you need an Inverter and an ATS and now you will need the cables / terminal strips / terminations and switches / gauges and disconnects. Then you have to wire them all together.
Or you can get a all in one unit and MPPSolar is not the only manufacturer of these. I am sure there are others. Victron (I seem to recall) make one but you will need to do your own research here.
Don't get me wrong - the All in one system do have their disadvantages as do the do it yourself systems but do the research and find the one that is most applicable to your needs. I think it depends wheer you are located as to whether the MPP system is fully up to code or not.
Have a look on YouTube - mine of information there.
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Since you are so well versed on MPP solar, how do you tell the difference between the real ones and the fake ones?

A quick google search for the cheapest 48V system has them at both $612 and $1064. That's a HUGE difference in cost that do exactly the same thing- 5000W, 48V, 230 out....

And they look different.

How in the world can someone trust those parts? None of them have real details. Makes one very weary of them.

thedodgersonline said:

Hi As apposed to people blindly criticizing a system they know nothing about?
Regards

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How meany of them have you ever owned? As for me I had 1 and got rid of it.
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thedodgersonline said:

Hi
Absolutely you can assemble your own system using you choice of components but it will cost much more. Plenty videos of that on YouTube and in Fact I think Will has done one.
Regards

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2500$-4500$, add modules, mounting and electrical integration parts. Done. 20 year warranty available but rarely needed.

My entire off grid system cost $3500 or less and we have had a successful run for 7 years.....

JoeHam said:

Take a look here. This guy has been in contact with MPP and sounds like they are aware/frustrated by the clone ripoffs.

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IF the unit I got was a ripoff they even copied the software and control panel as it looked just like the one in the video.
Then what is MPP doing to combat the ripoffs?

PsychoticEpisode said:

How meany of them have you ever owned? As for me I had 1 and got rid of it.
Regards

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Hi
So far I have "owned" about 6. Some I have on sold and others I have parted and sold bits and pieces. Never had a problem so far except for the one I currently have running my shed / pool where I had to replace the fans because I was getting a warning. Runs 24 / 7.
When I move the house "off grid" completely I will purchase another one for that.

EDIT : They are pretty complex to set up and this is where a lot of people go wrong. The default settings often work OK but if you start changing settings it can go wrong quickly. If you follow this link Will Prowse has a great site where the settings are defined and these work great as well.

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alfaeric said:

Since you are so well versed on MPP solar, how do you tell the difference between the real ones and the fake ones?

A quick google search for the cheapest 48V system has them at both $612 and $1064. That's a HUGE difference in cost that do exactly the same thing- 5000W, 48V, 230 out....

And they look different.

How in the world can someone trust those parts? None of them have real details. Makes one very weary of them.

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Hi - I generally purchase directly off the company website "MPPSolar" as I have got to know them. As this is Will Prowse forum I would suggest you use his affiliate links (if you are the the USA) or purchase from the MPPSolar shop on eBay or AliExpress. They are present on many sites. It is a minefield out there but I always suggest that you develop relationships with sellers, irrespective of the sites, and thay way your mitigate most of the risks.

This is the genuine eBay site for MPPSolar - maximum solar is present on all eBay sites https://www.ebay.com/usr/maximum_solar?_trksid=p2047675.l2559
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