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Email from Self2Solar says they have these in stock now, for what it’s worth

Interesting, and obviously V3 didn't have a backup output, because of how it was designed. Based on how they're showing the diagrams, I'm confident that it's more like V1 of the MIN's than V2.

I get the distinct feeling that once someone actually gets their hands on one of these things, we will learn a lot more than the basic manuals so far.

Interesting discussion. I'm still not positive, but when you run these inverters without a battery, does the backup load get power from AC when you've got no solar coming in? It seems like it should, but you never know.

I was looking at these the other day at Home Depot as well. I'm not a buyer right now, but my 20+ year old Toro zero turn isn't long for the world. I probably mow 1.5-2 acres when it's all said and done (between around the house, the driveway, along the roadside and my fruit orchard). And its...

I'll probably keep an eye on this battery, looks decent, assuming it actually functions as designed.

I get dropouts during very heavy thunderstorms (I assume mostly from signal attenuation because of the volume of water). Other than that, it's great. I've got the standard Gen 2 dish, with the included base, mounted on my roof. I bought a kit from amazon that included 4 magnet pucks to place on...

This actually isn't a bad idea. I'm planning on running 2 parallel 10kW AIO's, and had planned on combining it all with PDB's. But in some ways, using a very basic 200A panel to combine them might be a better (and perhaps cheaper) method.

Why would you not just combine into a PDB, with a breaker on each inverter between the PDB? Using multiple backfed breakers seems like a total pain, and something that would be easy to backfeed the grid...

Exactly how I’d do it, and how I plan to do it using the Growatt AIO that’s coming out soon.

Reading the Intro slides, they show 3 battery types (all of Growatt origin); the ALP, Hope and AXE battery. Only one (the AXE) have I ever seen listed for sale in the US. Are the other two coming, or is that more of a global product we won't see here?

Easy to throw stones when you're a retailer. Especially when you don't carry stuff of the companies your throwing shade to. Is it because of their warranty, or because your margin isn't high enough on them...

Why not just wait until one of the US suppliers has the thing? I’m just not sure it’s worth taking the risk on alibaba

I understand the voltage drop. It's more of the derating for being in a conduit with more than 3 conductors and any potential temperature derating. Having a large enough wire to meet code, is the issue here.

Yeah, it would be easier to just run them all as single string 10AWG. But I'm hopefully future-proofing myself by combining 2 strings into 1, should I need to add more panels later. I would only use the AL from the disconnect at the array to the external DC disconnect at the residence. Beyond...

~350 volts or so. Growatt inverter, SPH 10000TL-HU-US.

Because the inverter MPPT's don't support that kind of amperage. Each inverter has 3 MPPTs, each capable of 22A at most.

Exactly. Thats why I was planning on maybe going a size higher that I absolutely have to. My biggest question is just simply AL vs CU, but I'm not sure it really makes much of a difference, as long as they're properly installed

Then educate me on why I’m wrong? I understand the voltage drop concept, I also understand derating is required by the NEC

It's not a minimum voltage drop required issue. It's more of an issue with derating in said conduit, and then cost. Why spend $0.60+/ft for copper if I can find suitable aluminum for nearly half that. I'm looking at running a string with 21A, with 4 strings in a single conduit, so 8 conductors...

Working on buying wire to run from my ground mounted array to the house where the inverter is going to be located. It's going to be contained in conduit, so basically any wet rated wire should work. Is there any practical reason to select copper over aluminum on a run of about 300 ft? Yes, you...

Exactly, and far from the cheapest. It looks cool, but is it really that much better than other stuff coming out?

Thanks for posting it. I had been looking on/off to see when they get listed various places.

The only winners will be installers gobbling up that sweet sweet .gov money

I'm planning 56 370W panels. I'm planning on using 2 MPPTs on each inverter, one with 8 panels in series, and one with 2 strings of 10 paralleled panels. Leaves me room for adding panels easily down the road, should I choose to. So each inverter is going to have 10.36kW on it, undersized a bit...

My understanding is that they should be out somewhat soon, like in the next 2 months or so at most. I've got my permit pulled using this inverter, 2 of them paralleled, to be specific. I'll probably order them as soon as I see them available somewhere, but my DIY install is going to take some...

Self2Solar finally got me a price, $2650 before taxes or shipping. Seems like it'll be a competitive product at that price.

If you're set on Growatt, they've got a new AIO style inverter coming out hopefully soon, that's basically a 10kw inverter, can handle being paralleled and whatnot. SPH 10000TL-HU-US.

So did anyone actually end up with those cheap panels? Or did we all miss the boat.

After exchanging a few emails with different retailers, one says they expect to get these in stock, sometime in May... No price quoted, yet...

We talked about this at one point, but when I emailed Renvu about it a few weeks back, they had never even heard of the thing. Maybe Self2Solar has…

The more I look into this, the more I’m tempted to use this inverter. Just wish we could get some sort of actual expected availability date and price structure.

I would probably set the generator up to feed into a power distribution block, which then feeds into the inverters, like how a lot of the Solark installers roll with a generator install

The note about generator AC output of less than 10kW is odd to me. Maybe it means per inverter, but it doesn't make sense to have a small generator on a system like this.

Maybe I'm reading too much into this, but do these inverters have any kind of AC pass thru for grid power? Say the PV isn't making enough power during the day, does it just pull from the grid (assuming you have it connected in such a way).