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    Trying to determine well pump starting and run wattage for a future backup solution

    NO!!! These numbers are absolutely NOT correct. The 3hp value is the power OUTPUT of the pump motor, NOT the power input. Please go back up to post #8 and look carefully at the numbers posted for a 3hp pump. My recommendation at this point is stop asking for people's opinions, and start...
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    charging a battery bank of 24v

    Something I could add is the amount of solar needed for that sized battery. It's going to depend in part with the panels themselves, and the electronics you connect them to. As a general rule of thumb, traditional lead-acid likes charging at ~1/8th of C. With your C = 260Ah, that works out to...
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    Trying to determine well pump starting and run wattage for a future backup solution

    I think it might be appropriate at this point to suggest a course change. Yes, you can build a solar system that can power your well-pump, but at this point I'd question instead as to whether you should power it with a solar system? This is for outages that might occur once or twice a year...
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    Victron inverter for well pump and septic pump

    What I have read is that soft-start electronics on a well-pump is a BAD idea. My understanding is that water lubricates the pump bearings, and slow-starters allow the pump to turn with inadequate water flow, damaging the bearings. That being said, I don't actually personally know anyone that...
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    what to do

    Are these your batteries? When measured at the 20hr rate, they are only 424Ah. That being said, the charge rate you are going them might be a little on the low side. Most AGMs like a charge rate of 0.2C, which in your case should be 424Ah X 0.2C = 85A. They are really not matched well with...
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    Newbie with no power

    Can you take a pic of the little meter you have? I'm thinking that most likely you have it set to the wrong parameter and you reading something other than DC volts. Does the meter have more than one scale printed on it? You might have it switched to 3V instead of 30V? Yes, a cheap analog...
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    Freezer off of Solar panels

    Is this your freezer? Looking at comparable models at HomeDepot, I'd guestimate your unit might consume between 1.6 and 1.8kWh of power per day. But, as E.Cho mentions, the best option is using the killawatt to actually determine your real-world consumption. But, we can start with the 1.8kWh...
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    Installing a ground mounted array behind an existing array

    Couple of options. Looking at the shadows from your loquat at 11:43am, it appears that you have your array facing East, is that correct? Take out the first array, and put in two of mine, that would hold 3000W. I think I could squeeze two in the space you have shown? What is that big bush in...
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    Array Volts vs Watts

    Took a bit of digging to find out the actual Vmp? Don't understand why they have to make it so hard? Looking at the specs, your string of 5 panels would be putting out 41.65Vmp X 5panels = 208.25Vmp. Keep in mind that these are factory specs determined in a test chamber. You might see the...
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    Array Volts vs Watts

    The voltage values are rather high, so are you confusing the Voc with the Vmp? The Voc is the voltage of the panels when NO current is flowing. The Vmp is the voltage when the panels power is actually being consumed. That being said, once you are getting the voltage that high, power loss via...
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    Installing a ground mounted array behind an existing array

    Yes, please post pics. A mount holding only four panels is not very big, so it might be worthwhile to simply remove it. How high off the ground is the top edge of the panels? A higher mount in the back would need to clear the sun in December when the sun is at it's lowest angle. Might be...
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    Does anyone have pics of Midnite surge setup on a 6000XP system?

    This is the wiring diagram I used to connect mine. Hope you will find it helpful
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    Newbie alert simple question about Voc on PVs.

    A very important point is the mis-conception that a 12V panel produces 12V. It does not. The designation "12V" means that the panel can be used to charge a 12V battery with only simple electronics. In actuality, most "12V panels" actually output between 17 to 20V. This becomes very important...
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    Eclipse 2024

    During the last partial eclipse here in California, I was pumping irrigation water that day, after watering my orchard trees earlier that morning. Saw the solar input drop from 2200W to 800W. I shut off the pump till at least 4/5 of the sun re-appeared.
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    Solar Charge Controller Question

    You mentioned the RV, so I'll assume that these panels are going to be mounted flat on the roof? In that case, I'd de-rate their output to just 60% of nameplate, especially since you are in a more Northern area. In the real-world, what that means is that what goes into the battery is likely...
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    Keeping a solar system off-grid in a connected house

    Chrissky is making a very important point here. If there's the possibility that both your 1.5kW air-conditioner, and your 1.5kW water heater switch on at the same time, then 3000W of solar is NOT going to be adequate for powering both of them. Just to be clear, 3000W of solar panels is NOT...
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    Not sure where to ask this…

    48V is definately the way to go. Take a hard look at Outback's Radian, especially the 8048. I think that would be perfect for your needs. If at some point in the future you decide to sink a water well, the 8048 should handle up to at least 1hp without blinking, maybe more. With that, I'd say...
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    Off Grid without Off / Hybrid Inverters

    You have been misinformed. High-idle consumption has nothing to do with whether or not the inverter is hybrid or not, it really has to do primarily with the quality of design. Since most of the AiO units out there are of cheap Chinese design/manufacture, it appears that they all have...
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    New Home Construction System Design

    Personally, I'd want something a bit higher quality than EG4. Instead of fretting about array orientation, why not build single-pole rotating mounts like I did. With proper spacing, you can have your arrays facing East, South, or West, whenever you feel like it. The array pictured below can...
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    Happy Easter, old school easy to fix inverter charge controller less features?

    Shop for MorningStar, Midnight, Outback, Schneider, and Victron products. All are top, tier-1 quality.
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    48V to 12V Converter for Mobile 48V Solar Power System

    RV/automotive accessories like radios, TVs, or cocktail blenders are designed to operate at 12V. If you connected their power terminals to a battery bank that was 48V, you would fry the electronics inside, and potentially start a fire. The converter allows you to safely connect 12V items you...
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    Not sure where to ask this…

    Hello Clem, I have a niece living next to you in Adelaide, and I love that part of Australia, it sounds like your location is just a pretty as her's. You however are making the classic newbie mistakes of buying stuff before you have a firm understanding of what you want to accomplish, and what...
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    Solar power for central AC system

    Let's just throw out a few numbers here and see what we come up with. First, let's assume your air-conditioner is a 5000W unit running on 240VAC. You really need a clamp meter for this, but the starting inrush power is likely to be 3-5X the running power. So, for the first 500 milliseconds or...
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    6000xp Panel configuration

    I threw the parameters for your panels into Midnight's string calculator and see that for SSE's example of -25F above, your Voc might go as high as 434V, just slightly lower than the table's prediction of ~455V. So, except for some strange freak-weather event, your 10 panel string is likely to...
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    Are the hybrid inverters the way to go? mobile system? OUTBACK Skybox?

    It really is a apples vs oranges comparision. The kind of inverter you'd put on a hand-truck system is the kind of inverter you can hold in one hand. My XW+6848 hybrid inverter is also as big as a suitcase, and weighs 140lbs. You need a hand-truck just to move it into place, then two adults...
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    lol

    I think it would be very valuable to post again when the results of your research results in some hands-on experience as to what actually works well. Experience is the very best teacher.
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    Construction methods

    Building 6" walls to accomidate thicker insulation is very well established, and I used that in the construction of my own cabin. I would however be concerned more about the fewer nailing sites in 24" spaced studs vs 16" spaced ones. I would think that bowing under stress would be more...
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    Running ac through dc cables

    The real issue is flexibility, and how important that is in the application. Almost all AC applications are in walls, where there is no motion whatsoever. So, cheaper to make solid core wire makes perfect sense, because there is little chance for it to receive any damage. In situations where...
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    6000XP question

    Maybe a more important question is whether or not you could generate 1700kWh per month. That's a very large system beyond maybe 95% of the systems we see here. Doable, though rare. First, can you define where the power is actually going? In West Virginia, I'm guessing that 90% of the power...
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    Beginner, need assistance

    Yeah, I know, good solar is expensive. One place where you can save real money though is with locally bought solar panels. Here's what I found with a quick search for your local state. Shipping is built into the cost, so if you can do cash and carry panel purchases, you can save a lot of...
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    Beginner, need assistance

    OK, here is where an itemized list of your items, and their wattage needs, becomes very important. Lights and a TV are easy, you are working with items that draw dozens of watts at most. Things like the frig or freezer may draw hundreds of watts, and water heating elements and some water pumps...
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    JUDAS PRIEST I'm I that dumb?

    See pages 34-35.
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    Beginner, need assistance

    I disagree. Although there is no code requirement for adding a breaker, I would breaker even just two strings. You never want to disconnect a solar string in the daytime because of the threat of arcing. If you need to troubleshoot a problem string, it's safer to flip a breaker to first cut...
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    Beginner, need assistance

    Just to be very clear first, is this your charge controller? I don't want to give you the wrong advice based on the wrong electronics? With a limit of 150V, there is not a very good reason not to put 5 panels in series to make 5A 100V DC panel strings. I would however stop buying 12V panels...
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    New to Solar

    Sorry, somehow I didn't catch the "New" in England? Poor reading comprehension skills? If you really need only 7-8kWh per day, a system the size of my 24V workshop will suffice. Three 8V Rolls Surrette batteries, Midnight200 charge controller, Conext 4024 Sine-Wave inverter, and 2000W of...
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