New Docan 230Ah EVE Cells

[740GLE]

I was offered to save that fee if I wired the money directly, instead I opted for my credit card to purchase, not sure if this still applies.

 

[ghostwriter66]

School is in session Docan Fan Boys:

I was probably one of the very first DOCAN users on this forum ...

I joined this forum when it was literally the WILD WEST out there in LiFePO4 land. Holy cow think about how hard it was to find both a good battery and a good company and how time consuming it was .... all of us was testing every manufacturer, shipper, maker battery and I personally spent DAYs on the phone talking to the Chinese on the other end who themselves knew very little about what they were making or selling -- sure the engineers did - but getting to talk to an engineer was unheard of ...

Go back 2-3 years on this forum and just look at the type of dealers and batteries we were dealing with. EVERY Chinese "shipper" suddenly realized that there was an American market that was hungry for LiFePO4 and suddenly these "shippers" (some of them turned out to be tire or muffler manufacturers) were literally getting every rejected battery they could from the EV makers - wiping it off - and selling it as "Super Dooper GRADE-A #1" to anyone that would buy it.

I look back at some of the original batteries I had purchased for our oil company and still shake my head that these didn't either explode, cause a fire, or lasted more than 6 months....

Also us Americans didn't help when we started all this GRADE A and GRADE B and GRADE C crap... for the automotive industry and the battery makers there is simply no such code ... in China its simply good enough for the EV maker -- or not .... The batteries rejected by the EV maker often has nothing to due with the internal performance but how quirky or pissed off the inspector is that day ...

anyway - I digress...

After 1000's of DOCAN battery purchases I will say that I still have had zero issues with any of them ... YES sometimes there are delays but hell, its the same delays that every company faces sending billions of products in 10,000's of cargo containers on 100's of ships all going through a mismanaged and corrupt US PORT in CA - and then getting it pushed through Customs - and then loaded on FTL trucks to get to Houston ... a process that DOCAN has zero control over ...

BUT with that said - DOCAN has ALWAYS made right any issues that has came up (which in my case was only one battery in over a 1000 over the years)... Most of us know that AMY never sleeps and responds quickly to your questions (literally within minutes - 24/7) ... and trust me -- I love all of you (well most) -- but some of you have asked some of the most confusing (ie WTF!!??) questions they have ever seen and then get upset when you don't get the answers you need.

Anyway - DOCAN is still my go-to company ... I work in the oil patches in South Texas and YES they may not be the cheapest (but damn close) - but I will take reliability and customer service over saving a couple of $$$'s any day ...

And YES -- even though I am Chinese/American -- I still often - as most Chinese - still have no idea why certain companies do what they do - like re-lasering, or removing perfectly good UPC codes or this or that .... someone higher up the chain said to do it - no one questions it - and its done ...

And as for the trolling that @Alkaline seems to be doing - if you would like me to send you over a few 1000 examples how American companies and US GOVT has misled, or given false advertising, or simply made things up to get something onto market or approved by the FDA let me know - I will be happy to send that to you ... BUT with that said -- If YOU can find a better company, with better customer service, better prices, and better reliability let me know -- seriously

PS - I have ZERO / NADA affiliation with DOCAN or any battery manufacturers ... I don't get a single discount from DOCAN on anything .... and besides maybe a little shared DNA I have no ties to any body in that business ...... my job here is to find the best/most reliable/ and less expensive batteries I can for my boss ... PERIOD ....

TY

 

[ghostwriter66]

I was offered to save that fee if I wired the money directly, instead I opted for my credit card to purchase, not sure if this still applies.

You ALWAYS want to use a CC ... With a wire that money changes literally 20 hands before it gets to anyone ... and if anything happens along the way then suddenly no one knows anything .... PLUS with a CC if the batteries are messed up and the seller will not make it right then the CCC will simply charge the company back and there is no worries on your part .... PLUS if there is any damage or it just doesn't show up ... no lose ... AND normally your CC will give you an extended warranty even if the seller doesn't ....

 

[Alkaline]

for the trolling that @Alkaline seems to be doing - if you would like me to send you over a few 1000 examples how American companies and US GOVT has misled, or given false advertising, or simply made things up to get something onto market or approved by the FDA let me know - I will be happy to send that to you ... BUT with that said -- If YOU can find a better company, with better customer service, better prices, and better reliability let me know -- seriously

I'm I trolling Docan? Probably...
Are you assisting Docan to scam people? Probably...

You know I usually like to go around calling myself Nostradamus as a running gag, but I have to hand it to you, that title is rightfully yours. I mean look at this thread title:

BATTERY SELLERS - THE GOOD, BAD, UGLY -- or Jenny (DOCAN) so far so good ...

so I was watching a little YOUTUBE to get ready for the night shift ... YEP spending New Years Eve on a 24 hour shift out here in the Middle of South Texas as the On-Call technician ... just me - 200 Coyotes (dogs not smugglers) and a bunch of drillers and rough necks that really just needed a...

diysolarforum.com

THE GOOD, BAD, UGLY -- or Jenny (DOCAN)​

That is just spot on, its a perfect Story Ark for Docan, started off good when no one really knew what grade A or B was, then went bad when they were sending out bloated and severely under capacity cells (we are talking 250AH on a 280AH cell) and then it went straight ugly when they were exposed selling fraud scratched off/re-lasered cells. ???

Lets look at some of your claims, this whole "OIL GIANT" and "1000's of cells" yeah I tend to call ? on this. Why would any giant oil company be dealing with a reseller like Docan when they can get cells directly shipped to them EVE? Houston is a pretty big port, I'm sure Lampard "show me the money" Li from EVE would gladly send you a container full of Real Grade A cells at a price far lower than anything from Docan.

So I tend to believe your Oil Giant story as much as I believe that is actually a picture of you in your avatar Miss Fuka Koshiba JAPANESE TV ACTRESS (who is most certainly NOT CHINESE):

Fuka Koshiba - Google Search

www.google.com

 

[SilverbackMP]

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[EastFalcon]

I'm I trolling Docan? Probably...
Are you assisting Docan to scam people? Probably...

You know I usually like to go around calling myself Nostradamus as a running gag, but I have to hand it to you, that title is rightfully yours. I mean look at this thread title:

BATTERY SELLERS - THE GOOD, BAD, UGLY -- or Jenny (DOCAN) so far so good ...

so I was watching a little YOUTUBE to get ready for the night shift ... YEP spending New Years Eve on a 24 hour shift out here in the Middle of South Texas as the On-Call technician ... just me - 200 Coyotes (dogs not smugglers) and a bunch of drillers and rough necks that really just needed a...

diysolarforum.com

THE GOOD, BAD, UGLY -- or Jenny (DOCAN)​

That is just spot on, its a perfect Story Ark for Docan, started off good when no one really knew what grade A or B was, then went bad when they were sending out bloated and severely under capacity cells (we are talking 250AH on a 280AH cell) and then it went straight ugly when they were exposed selling fraud scratched off/re-lasered cells. ???

Lets look at some of your claims, this whole "OIL GIANT" and "1000's of cells" yeah I tend to call ? on this. Why would any giant oil company be dealing with a reseller like Docan when they can get cells directly shipped to them EVE? Houston is a pretty big port, I'm sure Lampard "show me the money" Li from EVE would gladly send you a container full of Real Grade A cells at a price far lower than anything from Docan.

So I tend to believe your Oil Giant story as much as I believe that is actually a picture of you in your avatar Miss Fuka Koshiba JAPANESE TV ACTRESS (who is most certainly NOT CHINESE):

Fuka Koshiba - Google Search

www.google.com

My Dream Tokuheroines # 248: Fuka Koshiba

Fuka Koshiba started her acting career on the 2012 Fuji TV series Iki Mo Dekinai Natsu and her recent roles is the 2017 TBS serie...

tokupinoy.blogspot.com

That is definitely her!

 

[740GLE]

Here I was thinking that was Ghostriders real picture, next you’re gonna tell me ghostrider isn’t a chick either.

Jeeze a sucker born each minute.

 

[GuyG]

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[Sam Cho TX]

ghostwriter66 any response?

 

[Horsefly]

This still seems silly to me. If you guys have had a bad experience with Docan, I think it's fine that you say so. If someone likes what they got from Docan, I think it's fine if they say so. But I don't get the constant harping on how bad Docan must be. Lots of people have purchased from them - and several pretty recently - that are happy with what they got.

And for the record, I don't really care if @ghostwriter66 uses whatever photo as her avatar here on the board. Similarly, I don't care if @Alkaline looks like a Shiba Inu wearing sunglasses. How could it possible matter?

 

[Alkaline]

 

[wtfg]

I bought 16 280eve a year and a half ago from Amy
Also bought a JBD BMS that I had problems with
After sending pictures and her promising to contact JBD she left me Hi and Dry
So I wouldn't use them again!

 

[EastFalcon]

There seems to be a little war going on between Docan Fans and Docan Haters.

@Alkaline you are a troll, but funny.?

 

[Alkaline]

Docan should just build up their new company name called Ezeal which is selling cells with test reports and charging $165 - $180 shipped for them. Fair Price.

They can sell the grade B without the nonsense on Ezeal as well and just call them Grade B they same way 18650batterystore does.

What this does say is that the market price of a grade A 280 cell is about $165.00 and $175.00 for a grade A 304 cell shipped & delivered within the USA.

 

[BongoPete]

I don't care about who is a good or bad supplier. I am just building a single 4 cell 230ah battery for my van and probably won't ever build another lifepo4 battery. I got 4 230ah eve cells from Docan. I did not ask for a specific "grade" as I've learned from here that is meaningless. They were a good price compared to other options. The cells look good and have no bloating. All four measured at 3.38v as delivered. I am top balancing now (2 at a time) and will do a capacity test next week after I put the battery together. I'll report back just to be another data point for people like me who are just looking for enough info to make a decision.

 

[Warpspeed]

Two very different ways to approach this.

1/ Buy from a PROVEN REPUTABLE supplier (such as Amy Wan) and just pony up the money asked.
It will definitely not be the lowest cost option, but if a hundred or a thousand other people have ended up happy with what they received, you might as well.

2/ Try to be really, really clever, and scam one of really cheap sellers offering the lowest deal.
You might actually end up with a really cheap battery, or maybe rubbish. Or maybe nothing at all.
The scammer may just have been a little bit smarter than you.

As the late Clint Eastwood once famously said about something completely different, are you feeling lucky ?

 

[42OhmsPA]

How's my balance?

230ah EVE cells I ordered from Docan Jenny last year.

 

[Brett V]

My Docan 230’s

 

[42OhmsPA]

Hit float.

 

[42OhmsPA]

My Docan 230’s

JK BMS?