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48 Volt Inverter Recommendations?

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I'm looking for an off grid 5-6,000 Watt inverter for my 48V system. What are some brands you all recommend? I'm new to this and am having a hard time finding/choosing one. If anyone has any other inverter advice or tips, I'd love to hear it!
 
Do not buy a MPPSOLAR Hybrid inverter ! Way too many settings for first timers and the manual is terrible !
 
You haven't mentioned what your budget is, if you want an "all-in-one" or not, if you need 120V/240V AC, etc. Otherwise without other info would suggest this: https://www.currentconnected.com/product/victron-48v-multiplus-2-5kva-120v-inverter-70a-charger/
I'm trying to help my dad build a system and he wants me to figure out what's out there before deciding a budget. Also I'm not entirely sure what all-in-one means, but I have heard of it. I do know that I'll need 120V AC though! And thank you for the recommendation
 
I'm trying to help my dad build a system and he wants me to figure out what's out there before deciding a budget. Also I'm not entirely sure what all-in-one means, but I have heard of it. I do know that I'll need 120V AC though! And thank you for the recommendation
"All in one" basically means the solar charge controller(s) and the inverter are all in one single "box". It simplifies wiring/installation but some people prefer separate solar charge controllers from the inverter.
 
"All in one" basically means the solar charge controller(s) and the inverter are all in one single "box". It simplifies wiring/installation but some people prefer separate solar charge controllers from the inverter.
What are some of the pros/cons of having separate charge controllers vice AIO?
 
What are some of the pros/cons of having separate charge controllers vice AIO?
With respect to solar charge controllers and an all-in-one:
Pros:
  1. Simplifies wiring/understanding of the entire system.
  2. Cleaner look
  3. Generally cheaper then buying separate charge controller of same capability
  4. Software/monitoring should inherently be consolidated with the inverter side
Cons:
  1. May be less efficient.
  2. May be noisier (i.e. an EG4 18k PV makes a lot of fan noise when the solar battery charging exceeds 100A). You can get separate charge controllers that make no noise). You have a lot of components all in one single box that need cooling.
  3. A hardware issue may result in you having to replace entire system (solar charge controller plus inverter)
 
I'm trying to help my dad build a system and he wants me to figure out what's out there before deciding a budget.
Also I'm not entirely sure what all-in-one means, but I have heard of it.
I do know that I'll need 120V AC though! And thank you for the recommendation

I think that it would be interesting to get a little bit more information about the system that you try to design, or already have,
because the instalation of an off-grid solar system is a little bit more complex than a typical grid-tie system.

Are you currently using the power from the grid and try to lower your consumption cost by using solar energy,
or does your home is completely isolated and will depend only from solar energy. If so, you will need to also to
have extra power storage, or a generator, in case of bad weather.

So in general you need to start by making an electrical consumption audit, to identify which devices or systems are consuming the most energy.
In particular you need to consider if you have any motors (refrigerator, freezer, air conditioning...) because those require extra in-rush current.

In the case of a solar grid-tied system, the grid can provide extra in-rush current but in the case of an off-grid system you need to be sure
that your inverter will be able to handle the extra in-rush current, without damaging your inverter.

You could consider using some SoftStart device to lower the in-rush current and use some timer delay to prevent having several motors
starting at the same time. Also a low frequency inverter might be recommended to handle high energy peak demand, combined with a
more efficient and maybe less powerfull high frequency inverter.

You need to have an idea of your daily consumption to estimate the battery capacity needed, and then determine the number of solar panels
needed to recharge your battery, especially during winter time, when the solar energy production is reduced, while consumption might be higher.
 
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Depending on your setup requirements inverters will be mobile, inverter/chargers or AIO. Typically mobile inverters have AC outlets on them and are used for applications like boats or RV's and temporary power setups.
Higher quality mobile inverters will also have hard wire terminals for a more permanent setup.

Inverter chargers are similar to mobile inverters with hard wire terminals but they connect to both battery and an AC supply. The AC can be used to charge through the inverter and also frequently has an ability to pass through for load carrying while charging. Some may operate like a UPS.

AIO's contain SCC, ATS, inverter/charger and a control unit for setting parameters such as power preference, types of charging, and many other things.

Among AIO's are Off grid, hybrid zero export and various grid tie hybrid models. Some can function without batteries.
 
Is it for literally off grid or hybrid use?

Literally off grid simplifies the necessary feature set a lot and inverters like the XW and maybe the Rosie are king. For hybrid the AIO's have more active development and ease of use in hybrid configurations.
 
I think that it would be interesting to get a little bit more information about the system that you try to design, or already have,
because the instalation of an off-grid solar system is a little bit more complex than a typical grid-tie system.

Are you currently using the power from the grid and try to lower your consumption cost by using solar energy,
or does your home is completely isolated and will depend only from solar energy. If so, you will need to also to
have extra power storage, or a generator, in case of bad weather.

So in general you need to start by making an electrical consumption audit, to identify which devices or systems are consuming the most energy.
In particular you need to consider if you have any motors (refrigerator, freezer, air conditioning...) because those require extra in-rush current.

In the case of a solar grid-tied system, the grid can provide extra in-rush current but in the case of an off-grid system you need to be sure
that your inverter will be able to handle the extra in-rush current, without damaging your inverter.

You could consider using some SoftStart device to lower the in-rush current and use some timer delay to prevent having several motors
starting at the same time. Also a low frequency inverter might be recommended to handle high energy peak demand, combined with a
more efficient and maybe less powerfull high frequency inverter.

You need to have an idea of your daily consumption to estimate the battery capacity needed, and then determine the number of solar panels
needed to recharge your battery, especially during winter time, when the solar energy production is reduced, while consumption might be higher.
What I have/plan to get so far is: 8 12 Volt 200 Watt Renogy panels, 2 DIY 48V 280AH batteries (made with CATL cells), and 2 of this https://batteryhookup.com/products/7s-21s-24v-75v-300a-lithium-ion-bms?variant=43085312884898 BMS. I haven't chosen a charge controller yet.

I'm currently completely on-grid. This system is mostly to have in case of emergencies, and most likely to run some LED lights for indoor vegetable growing (I'm aware this is overkill for just that). My family is searching for a place to move so I'm not trying to build anything permanent yet. I also want to make it expandable in case my family decides to go partially or completely off-grid.

Thank you for the info about the in-rush current, I may have forgotten to consider that.

Once we're settled in a new place, and if my dad wants me to, I'll need assess all of our energy consumption for a proper sytem for that house. For now I'm just doing this so if there was an emergency my family would have some form of power.
 
^^^ what he said. Are you building just for fun (cheap)? Any intention of eventuality using it to power your home (buy quality once)? Using for camping trips (portable)? Permit issues (ul listed)?
What I have/plan to get so far is: 8 12 Volt 200 Watt Renogy panels, 2 DIY 48V 280AH batteries (made with CATL cells), and 2 of this https://batteryhookup.com/products/7s-21s-24v-75v-300a-lithium-ion-bms?variant=43085312884898 BMS. I haven't chosen a charge controller yet.

I'm currently completely on-grid. This system is mostly to have in case of emergencies, and most likely to run some LED lights for indoor vegetable growing (I'm aware this is overkill for just that). My family is searching for a place to move so I'm not trying to build anything permanent yet. I also want to make it expandable in case my family decides to go partially or completely off-grid.

Thank you for the info about the in-rush current, I may have forgotten to consider that.

Once we're settled in a new place, and if my dad wants me to, I'll need assess all of our energy consumption for a proper sytem for that house. For now I'm just doing this so if there was an emergency my family would have some form of power.
Here's the answer to that ^^
 
Is it for literally off grid or hybrid use?

Literally off grid simplifies the necessary feature set a lot and inverters like the XW and maybe the Rosie are king. For hybrid the AIO's have more active development and ease of use in hybrid configurations.
Thanks! Yes it will be completely off-grid
 
EG4 6000XP is probably your best bet for a simple to install all in one unit.
I would caution against multiple 12 volt batteries and just go with 48 volt batteries from day one.
You can always start with one or two rack batteries and then add more as your addiction grows 🤪
 
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