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100% SOC batteries taking current, randomly

millsan1

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I have 12 LifePower4 batteries connected to my 18 kpv.

I have 1 to 1 net metering, so I only draw these down to 85% on a daily basis.

In the AM, on a sunny day, I get to 100% soc pretty quickly.

One odd behavior I am seeing is, throughout the day, for a few minutes at a time, there will be current flowing to the batteries, a few thousand watts. Then all goes back to normal.

I am ASSUMING that this is a result of the cells leveling out, and some more "room" for energy being found, i.e. some cells might be a touch below the majority in a pack, and when it all smooths out, there is more room for some juice. (these are technical terms :ROFLMAO: )

It's not a problem per se, more of a curiosity.
 
It sounds like the batteries are top balancing from the float to bulk voltage points at this time. However, if you would like to send me the serial number for the inverter, I can take a look at the data.
 
I don't think that the batteries should really draw a few thousand watts when they're fully charged. I've never seen mine draw more than a few watts each. So unless something like a cell overvoltage protection is shutting off the charge to a battery long before it reaches full charge and then it starts charging again, something strange is going on. Even in that case, thousands of watts flowing is odd. Check them with BMS_TEST and see what's going on.
 
I don't think that the batteries should really draw a few thousand watts when they're fully charged. I've never seen mine draw more than a few watts each. So unless something like a cell overvoltage protection is shutting off the charge to a battery long before it reaches full charge and then it starts charging again, something strange is going on. Even in that case, thousands of watts flowing is odd. Check them with BMS_TEST and see what's going on.
I'll take a look, but 3,000 watts over 12 batteries at full charge is only about 4 amps per battery.
 
Aaaand I may be an idiot. Well, I am, but maybe in this particular case. Looking at the charts, I see some battery draw happening just prior to the top up in many cases.
 
It sounds like the batteries are top balancing from the float to bulk voltage points at this time. However, if you would like to send me the serial number for the inverter, I can take a look at the data.
PMed you on this and another
 
It's normal for the current to slowly decline as the batteries approach the fully charged voltage. My five LiFePO4s only draw a few watts each after they're charged to 55.9 then go to float at 53.9. I've never seen the draw spike after that point.

I don't believe that it's a good idea to "re-bulk" your batteries many times a day.


It's normal for the batteries to provide a few thousand watts to the inverter (however much it demands) as the bus voltage drops from bulk to float. Are you sure of the direction of current flow?
 
Closed. But as my post above, it looks normal. Seems like there are some draws on battery during the day when it gets cloudy

My setup did the same thing today, and monitoring BMS showed Cell over voltage warnings as well as alarm.

Batteries showed 100% but was taking almost 2Kw and sent them into protection mode. From what I was told, they’re top balancing and “figuring” out what they can hold/balancing to that.

How many times have you cycled them?
 
My setup did the same thing today, and monitoring BMS showed Cell over voltage warnings as well as alarm.

Batteries showed 100% but was taking almost 2Kw and sent them into protection mode. From what I was told, they’re top balancing and “figuring” out what they can hold/balancing to that.

How many times have you cycled them?
I don't know exactly, but I've been up and running since November 23, so assume at least 100 times
 
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