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Victron Charge Controller Price Crash

rhino said:
Who exactly is giving these price discounts? I checked currentconnected.com and solar-electric.com and didn't see at a glance any price reduction.
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I believe the “rig” is that victron sets all prices and resellers (no such thing as buying directly from victron from Amazon) pass along the set price (maybe mark up a bit here or there if they can). The resellers only get a kick back/paid from victron if the item is sold at an agreed rate

Thus if a seller has stock (extra overhead to hold inventory) and victron lowers the price there’s no loss on the reseller.

I think this is very similar to big box power tool sales. Low risk for the reseller (especially for something that grew legs and walked off) when prices change and sales are a flurry.

Either way I had my eye on a 150/35 for a long time and I’m this this this close to pulling the trigger.

I’d love it if Lynx and MPII had similar discounts (I did see 24/3000 MPII was slightly discounted)
 
Okay.. I see if I selected the 250/100 on current connected it did have the $6xx price.. but must still be only certain items since he still has the RS 450's at same price.
 
Solarcabin Channel said:
Appears to be the Victron store on Amazon and this is coming before black Friday and looks like they wanted to get a jump to get people's attention before other companies drop prices for the sale.
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I think it would be a mistake to assume this is some time limited black Friday promotion.
 
Solarcabin Channel said:

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Tesla spent $151,947 on advertising in the US in 2022. Ford and Toyota Motor Corp. spent $370 million and $1.1 billion. General Motors Co. spent a total of $1.35 billion. GM last year spent $4 billion globally on advertising and promotions, according to US regulatory filings

They created a market, proved it, and now are dominating.
 
rhino said:
Also sort of weird that the "Victron Energy Store" on Amazon actually ships from different venders but when you visit that vendors website they don't show the lower price.. This is part of reason why I hate Amazon now-a-days since if you aren't careful you don't even know who you bought it from... hence reason why I'd prefer ordering directly from someplace like current connected.
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Yep, I did sort of a double/triple take on mine before/during/after ordering a 150/45. Mine appears to be a legit/authorized Victron seller.

rhino said:
This makes me wonder, where did @sunshine_eggo see the announcement from Victron to know this is some official Victron thing?
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Good question, would be interesting to see if there may be more coming or if this is just a new 'loss leader' for more Victron sales.. either way, I appreciate being able to grab it @ $218 as a backup and/or supplement to my hybrid inverter.
 
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The lower voltage and amperage versions are all showing -33% price reduction on Amazon.ca. However the 250/100 and some other higher amperage versions don’t have a price drop yet. Hopefully they extend it to those ones.
 
justinm001 said:
Tesla spent $151,947 on advertising in the US in 2022. Ford and Toyota Motor Corp. spent $370 million and $1.1 billion. General Motors Co. spent a total of $1.35 billion. GM last year spent $4 billion globally on advertising and promotions, according to US regulatory filings

They created a market, proved it, and now are dominating.
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"Since buying Twitter for $44 billion last October, the company, now known as X, has hemorrhaged $25 billion in value, according to recent reporting from Fortune that was based on an internal valuation by X."

That is some expensive advertising!
 
Solarcabin Channel said:
"Since buying Twitter for $44 billion last October, the company, now known as X, has hemorrhaged $25 billion in value, according to recent reporting from Fortune that was based on an internal valuation by X."

That is some expensive advertising!
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What does Tesla have to do with X? X isn't publicly traded so valuation is just a guess. Regardless it hasn't been long and premature to worry about a company's valuation just after being gutted and redesigned in a year. Well know more in a few years
 
Solarcabin Channel said:
"Since buying Twitter for $44 billion last October, the company, now known as X, has hemorrhaged $25 billion in value, according to recent reporting from Fortune that was based on an internal valuation by X."

That is some expensive advertising!
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justinm001 said:
What does Tesla have to do with X? X isn't publicly traded so valuation is just a guess. Regardless it hasn't been long and premature to worry about a company's valuation just after being gutted and redesigned in a year. Well know more in a few years
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..can we stay on topic?
 
Savings may be good for US, Can. but from downunder a $1000 mppt had at best a ~$100 US dollar saving compared to the local supplier, still not sold.
 
So my question for the Victron users is what makes you believe a Victron is any better than other controllers and have you used other brands of controllers?
 
Solarcabin Channel said:
So my question for the Victron users is what makes you believe a Victron is any better than other controllers and have you used other brands of controllers?
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Because they can make a 3kVA 48V controller that can deal with inductive loads (due to their hybrid design) that only consumes 10W self consumption power (i.e., when idle). As most of you know, I run a 6kW MUST inverter, 100A MUST charge controllers, JK BMS etc. - so plenty of non-Victron stuff - but I have yet to find any other inverter that can do this outside of Victron. Someone mentioned SMA earlier, but I checked and that's only in 'stand-by' which means it's not powering anything, just checking if there is a load (Victron has this too) - the SMA sits at around 20W idle.

Also, I can go 'down the street' so to say and buy one. Yes, I have spare parts for everything and can do component level repair on the MUST stuff, but it's still nice to have the ability to just buy an inverter locally. I need this low consumption so I don't waste precious power in winter, so the Victron is my 'winter inverter'.
 
upnorthandpersonal said:
Because they can make a 3kVA 48V controller that can deal with inductive loads (due to their hybrid design) that only consumes 10W self consumption power (i.e., when idle). As most of you know, I run a 6kW MUST inverter, 100A MUST charge controllers, JK BMS etc. - so plenty of non-Victron stuff - but I have yet to find any other inverter that can do this outside of Victron. Someone mentioned SMA earlier, but I checked and that's only in 'stand-by' which means it's not powering anything, just checking if there is a load (Victron has this too) - the SMA sits at around 20W idle.

Also, I can go 'down the street' so to say and buy one. Yes, I have spare parts for everything and can do component level repair on the MUST stuff, but it's still nice to have the ability to just buy an inverter locally. I need this low consumption so I don't waste precious power in winter, so the Victron is my 'winter inverter'.
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Thanks, can you expand on your system used and inductive load please?
 
Solarcabin Channel said:
Thanks, can you expand on your system used and inductive load please?
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Solarcabin Channel said:
So my question for the Victron users is what makes you believe a Victron is any better than other controllers and have you used other brands of controllers?
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My setup is very small due to living in a town house and not wanting to put panels on the roof and deal with everything that goes along with that.

Currently I don’t have a Victron inverter but I do have a Victron charge controller. I am using a Renogy on a secondary array which is what I was using as the main one for a while.

I also do ham radio and I've found the Renogy produces RFI so I plan on replacing the secondary array CC with another Victron.

I do plan on getting the Multiplus II at some point as well and replacing the Chinese inverter I bought on Amazon.
Mainly replacing that as well due to RFI from it, and I want a unit that can also charge the batteries when solar production is low.

I had looked at some AIO units but they all have very high minimum PV voltage requirements, plus the idle consumption is high on some.
Having a separate CC and inverter, I can actually use the small array I have when the voltage is lower(my max array voltage is currently about 115V). I have way too much shading where I am so running all panels in series to increase the voltage more is not very good. Running it in 2S2P for both arrays.
 
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