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Mouse Chewed Inverter Data Wiring MPP Solar LV6548

sparrowhawk said:
Had a large mama rat have babies in my attic. I trapped all her progeny but she was to wary to fall for any traps so I had to poison her. She died under the air handler in the attic and I couldn't get at where her corpse lay so it stunk up the bedroom that was just below her. Fortunately it was a spare room but she made her presence known all winter and in the dead of summer I guess she finally dried up and blew away because her stench left the building.
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Juicy!
 
Checkthisout said:
The problem with the poison is that it takes forever to kill them and so they still gnaw and then go off and die in hidden spaces.
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Get the good shit that grain elevators usually carry. Little green balls. They will carry them places though before gnawing into them. One gnawed, dead fairly quickly. I just leave the ones in place I find squirrelled away for the most part. Figure what's good for the goose is good for the gander or mice in this case.
 
SilverbackMP said:
Get the good shit that grain elevators usually carry. Little green balls. They will carry them places though before gnawing into them. One gnawed, dead fairly quickly. I just leave the ones in place I find squirrelled away for the most part. Figure what's good for the goose is good for the gander or mice in this case.
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Well, tell me what and where the good stuff is.
 
Checkthisout said:
Well, tell me what and where the good stuff is.
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Looks like its Ramik Green Rat and Mouse Bait.

Had a smaller dog swallow one (Boston terrier that gave the "middle finger" with a look when told "no"). I had moved some stuff in the shop and found a hord pile and she came in with my mom before I got it cleaned up. We tried to induce vomiting but that didn't work. She was fine though.
 
I was trying to rodent proof my friend's house and I found a sticky trap with a baby mouse stuck to it with half its face melted off including the eyeball but it was still alive. No creature deserves that and when you throw it in the garbage who knows if a raccoon or skunk gets it stuck on its face.

The poison obviously has its own huge set of problems There's got to be a better solution.

When I got my first apartment I noticed my landlord had put a plate of poison in the basement. I found an opeing around a utility pipe in the exterior wall that was big enough for squirrels to crawl right through (zero fucks given nice work!). I found dozens of rodent corpses inside one of the wall cavities where they would fall in from time to time. Sealing that wall took 5 minutes. Later on I found an opening around a pipe that reached from the attic into the basement. Sealing that up took 5 minutes.

When I bought my house fixer upper I found snake skins in a drop ceiling in the basement along with many mice corpses and mouse droppings. Found the opening outside easily sealed it up with concrete patch, haven't seen a rodent since and it's been 7 years.

Moral of the story its really not their fault if our construction is wide open and with great power comes great responsibility, so its on us to make an effort to protect these creatures from a horrible death. ??
 
SupraSPL said:
I was trying to rodent proof my friend's house and I found a sticky trap with a baby mouse stuck to it with half its face melted off including the eyeball but it was still alive. No creature deserves that and when you throw it in the garbage who knows if a raccoon or skunk gets it stuck on its face.

The poison obviously has its own huge set of problems There's got to be a better solution.

When I got my first apartment I noticed my landlord had put a plate of poison in the basement. I found an opeing around a utility pipe in the exterior wall that was big enough for squirrels to crawl right through (zero fucks given nice work!). I found dozens of rodent corpses inside one of the wall cavities where they would fall in from time to time. Sealing that wall took 5 minutes. Later on I found an opening around a pipe that reached from the attic into the basement. Sealing that up took 5 minutes.

When I bought my house fixer upper I found snake skins in a drop ceiling in the basement along with many mice corpses and mouse droppings. Found the opening outside easily sealed it up with concrete patch, haven't seen a rodent since and it's been 7 years.

Moral of the story its really not their fault if our construction is wide open and with great power comes great responsibility, so its on us to make an effort to protect these creatures from a horrible death. ??
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Exclusion is the ultimate answer.
Meanwhile the lazy answers are expensive and repetitive.
Glue traps are indiscriminate. Ever peeled lizards off a glue board? Use lots of vegetable oil.
Traps will make you feel better until they know better.
Peppermint oil is a decent deterrent in small spaces, eg. Under the hood of a truck or mower.
Cayenne pepper blown under the house works for a few weeks.
Poison works if you don't mind the smell for a while, I call it the smell of victory.
I once even built a remote control pellet gun with night vision that I played like a video game.
But exclusion is the answer.
Which is why I built a rodent-proof house.
 
5 gallon bucket mouse trap... Works great in the garage.
Years ago a friend had one in his basement and I laughed out loud till I saw how well they worked.... Coat hanger through the top of the bucket with a pill bottle, beer can, etc through the coat hanger; coat the cylinder of your choice in pb and add a longish ramp going to the top of the bucket... Mouse climbs ramp, jumps to the pb coated cylinder and falls into the bucket... Get rid of them however you choose.
... I bet I could have retired early if I patented something similar... Now they sell something similar.
Mouse Trap Bucket Lid Auto Reset | 5 Gallon Bucket Compatible | Mouse Trap Bucket Lid (2 Pack) https://a.co/d/ecgwfOE
 
A mean old woman that I know made a bucket trap and she drowned dozens of chipmunks. They are native, healthy, amazing creatures. In the bucket they fight for their lives in desperate fear for quite a long time, but ultimately painfully drown in the same water as their relatives that may be floating next to them. It's no different than if a your cat or dog was drowning. They feel the same feelings we feel, they have essentially the same nervous systems we have. We are not superior to these creatures.

For example, they would never be dumb enough to build a nuclear power plant on a fault line and put the diesel generators under the water line, poisoning the entire ocean with radioactive cesium for hundreds of years. If building #4 had collapsed, we could have sterilized the northern hemisphere.

When I was a boy, maybe 8 my dad curbed my cruelty with a few gentle nudges. Cruelty came naturally to me and if he had encouraged it I would have easily been a monster. I wasn't the worst by far among the group of boys I grew up with. So I get how someone could lack empathy, but it is seriously messed up if we are being honest with ourselves.

Sometimes you have to do what you have to do, but it doesn't take that much effort to rodent proof a structure and avoid all that mess.

Sorry OP!
 
SupraSPL said:
A mean old woman that I know made a bucket trap and she drowned dozens of chipmunks. They are native, healthy, amazing creatures. In the bucket they fight for their lives in desperate fear for quite a long time, but ultimately painfully drown in the same water as their relatives that may be floating next to them. It's no different than if a your cat or dog was drowning. They feel the same feelings we feel, they have essentially the same nervous systems we have. We are not superior to these creatures.

For example, they would never be dumb enough to build a nuclear power plant on a fault line and put the diesel generators under the water line, poisoning the entire ocean with radioactive cesium for hundreds of years. If building #4 had collapsed, we could have sterilized the northern hemisphere.

When I was a boy, maybe 8 my dad curbed my cruelty with a few gentle nudges. Cruelty came naturally to me and if he had encouraged it I would have easily been a monster. I wasn't the worst by far among the group of boys I grew up with. So I get how someone could lack empathy, but it is seriously messed up if we are being honest with ourselves.

Sometimes you have to do what you have to do, but it doesn't take that much effort to rodent proof a structure and avoid all that mess.

Sorry OP!
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Pay my $5k bill from mouse chewed wires in my car (and it still isn’t completely fixed) and then you can preach to me about harmonizing with nature.

F$&k those little bastards. They are getting the green balls of death if they approach my vehicles or any of my buildings.

And I am not even addressing the the flying squirrel damage…as part of that is due to my parents building techniques (T-111 garbage siding and board and bat sycamore that has had woodpecker attacks). I am not going to try to eliminate them (though my mom’s dogs occasionally gets one when they gain full entry). Just encourage them to move on. One old structure is already resided in metal.
 
SupraSPL said:
A mean old woman that I know made a bucket trap and she drowned dozens of chipmunks. They are native, healthy, amazing creatures. In the bucket they fight for their lives in desperate fear for quite a long time, but ultimately painfully drown in the same water as their relatives that may be floating next to them. It's no different than if a your cat or dog was drowning. They feel the same feelings we feel, they have essentially the same nervous systems we have. We are not superior to these creatures.

For example, they would never be dumb enough to build a nuclear power plant on a fault line and put the diesel generators under the water line, poisoning the entire ocean with radioactive cesium for hundreds of years. If building #4 had collapsed, we could have sterilized the northern hemisphere.

When I was a boy, maybe 8 my dad curbed my cruelty with a few gentle nudges. Cruelty came naturally to me and if he had encouraged it I would have easily been a monster. I wasn't the worst by far among the group of boys I grew up with. So I get how someone could lack empathy, but it is seriously messed up if we are being honest with ourselves.

Sometimes you have to do what you have to do, but it doesn't take that much effort to rodent proof a structure and avoid all that mess.

Sorry OP!
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I don't disagree with the premise of minimizing cruelty and not having poorly built structures that have holes and atuff in the first place but I can assure you that the females have 8 tits for a reason and they had that many long before mankind came along.

I don't like poison. Snap traps and bucket traps are my go to.

Some structures, especially garage doors, are impossible to seal against rodents.

You lose empathy for the critters after fixing countless vehicle wiring harnesses and seeing the sexual habits of mice oh if they ever get into a travel trailer and keep you up all night.


What really turns a guy is having them get into a grain bin.

And when they get into tail section of your airplane and piss up a salty urea storm which makes it so you have to replace a bunch of aluminum and landing gear parts.
 
Dmoranda said:
Hey guys. Well I made a dumb mistake leaving the front panel of my MPP Solar Inverter open. I mouse got in and squeezed into the main compartment. He did some serious damage to my data cables. (See photos) I'm in the process of trying to get a new set of cables direct from the manufacturer, although the correspondence has stopped.

Does anyone know where I can buy these ribbon cables with appropriate connectors? I chatted with Ian at Watts247 and he mentioned to search for IDH header, but I can't seem to find anything relevant.

I'd appreciate any direction on this. Thanks and don't make the mistake I did. Always seal up your equipment!

This is what I sent to MPP Solar Support for cable replacements needed: (Total of 6 cables chewed)
  1. (CN1) 8 Pin cable from (CAN POWER) to main board (HFPW) (CN6)
  2. (CN1) 2 pin AC start cable from main board (HFPW) to (COMM)
  3. (CN6) 6 pin cable from vertical circuit board to (COMM)
  4. (CN5) 3 pin (2 wire cable) from MPPT to SPS (CN3)
  5. (CN14) 2 pin cable from (HFPW) to another connector on main board (HFPW) under a large aluminum heat sink
  6. (CN12?) 2 pin cable that runs from HFPW to a connector under large aluminum heat sink on main board (HFPW)
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Most likely soy made insulation on the wires. Toyota had issues with mice eating them on their trucks a few years back and they found the soy drew mice like crazy. They had a bunch of trucks to rewire ?
You would be better off to make your own connectors with proper wire insulation.
 
Years ago, I worked as a bench tech on wyse terminals we would get 10-15 a month from local hotels. They all had dead rats and mice in them ones which were installed in the kitchens. These old terminals had CRT monitors rodents would bite down on the flyback transformer wire turn into a crusty mess inside these things. Sometimes roaches would run out of them when open covers they seemed to be smarter than the rodents or high voltage had no effect on them.
 
Larry-Cleveland said:
I have had some good luck spraying the wires with Hot Sause. Just remember don't rub your eyes when working around the wires.
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Or absent-mindedly take a whizz after getting hot sauce on your hands.

I have found that nothing works but mothballs kinda work.

The best way is to make sure they can't get to the wires in the first place.
 
Checkthisout said:
The problem with the poison is that it takes forever to kill them and so they still gnaw and then go off and die in hidden spaces.
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Or, if you are in a remote, wild area, they go enter the food chain to poison owls, raptors, foxes, coyotes, etc. The sticky traps are great for people who get bored with picking the wings off flies and hope to see something slowly starve to death. Snap traps work best, if you can figure out where to place them and what bait works for the specific situation. Or there are always the Instructables traps for people who like to build Rube Goldburg gadgets.

I had a vole(s?) shitting over everything. Spread a perimeter of Diatomaceous Earth around and it disappeared immediately. As cheap as snap traps are, the amount of DE needed was a fractions worth of that. Just have to see how it lasts...
 
Those are a type of JST connectors. There are many types but you can tell the difference by pin spacing, pin size, connector format. If you want to replace the wires it is pretty easy. You can get 18awg led light ribbon cable on amazon, typically 4 conductor. If you need more use more you can get wider and/or different awg.

 
A timely post on the rodents, especially as I leave the bottom panel of my AIO open for improved airflow.

The door to my battery/ AIO shed had a 3/16" gap below it which was covered by the rubber door sweep, but I know that I could close the door over a medium thick extension cord rather easily.

Thanks to this thread I sealed it with a 1/8" strip of PVC trim.
 
Shawn Woods has some fun videos on this subject.

I've heard that mice don't heal from wounds, they just bleed out. If all wires and wireways are fully enclosed, and they still got in, find out where and stuff some steel wool in there.
 
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