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    EG4 Indoor 280Ah 48v WallMount Battery

    I saw a video on youtube from them where they said it faults the BMS some how. Not super helpful but it worked in conjunction with the inverter from what I gathered. They do have several employees on here so maybe one can describe how it works.
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    Cell prices coming down

    "connected in high voltage DC configurations (1,075.2V~1,363.2V)" Oof. What inverter can I use for that ;)
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    EG4 Indoor 280Ah 48v WallMount Battery

    Here in Ontario, the rule is 1m spacing between ESS units/batteries, OR as per manufacture's installation instructions. So even here, we'd have to space it out 12" then, even though it was tested closer together and is safe that way. I'm not sure if I'd be buying these at some point, but for...
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    EG4 Indoor 280Ah 48v WallMount Battery

    I wonder how the internal shunts would work in terms of calculating correct SOC in this case. Say you pull 100A, it'd only be roughly 1.6A per battery if you had 64 in parallel. But that's ~5.2kW, which is way above the average draw I'd imagine. Say your average draw in your house is 500W, you'd...
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    Battery in basement woes Canada

    We are stuck in the stone ages it seems. They seem more lenient on grid tied systems without battery storage. We have many companies that will happily install expensive grid tied systems, although I don't think they pay much to sell back anymore.
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    Battery in basement woes Canada

    It means 23m above grade, and nothing below grade. Although it reads that you can apply for a variance if you have a 9540 certified installation. I'm guessing the 23m limit is to prevent installation in high rises where it's harder to get fire equipment to those upper levels. Like Ontario, it...
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    Maple Leaf Moose - 48V 280aH

    These are now $6800 CAD If you compare it with the EG4 Power Pro, those are $4049 USD, but on sale for $3799 USD currently Those USD prices are equal to $5,154-$5493 CAD currently So per battery, the moose one seems to be $1307-$1646 CAD more than the Power Pro. That's quite the extra cost for...
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    Large panels on roof?

    That roof looks fairly steep. Ours won't be quite that steep, more of a normal house pitch. And shingles so it won't be slippery. I have some other large panels on an outdoor "catio" and I got them up there relatively easily(65lbs each I think). Although it's not as high. I'll definitely...
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    Large panels on roof?

    For sure. These ones are almost 70lb each and 7.5 feet long :LOL:
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    Large panels on roof?

    I mean the 570W per panel is the PMax without the boost from the rear cells. With the boost from the rear cells it's 599+W it says. I'll definitely look into other options for panels. I don't think I'd have enough room on the roof or property to fit an entire pallet of panels unfortunately...
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    Large panels on roof?

    What do you all think of these panels for roof mounting? https://solarpowerstore.ca/products/maple-leaf-solar-all-black-bifacial-solar-panel-570w I realize being on a roof that the bifacial aspect will pretty much be useless but for 48c/W it seems like the best deal around in Canada at the...
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    Insurance and DIY Battery banks

    Again, it may be different in the USA, but the original post is about Ontario Canada. From what I see, the CEC is adopted by all provinces and territories https://canada.ul.com/codeauthorities/codeauthoritiesincanada/#:~:text=Electrical%20Codes,(CEC)%2C%20Part%20I.
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    Insurance and DIY Battery banks

    This thread is for Canada originally, and I don't know about the states and the various applications of NEC. In the CEC(Canadian Electrical Code), there are requirements for these systems. If you do happen to have a fire and had an unpermitted installation of any kind and some or all of the...
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    Insurance and DIY Battery banks

    It's a bit surprising that insurance companies don't have a problem with these DIY batteries, given that the electrical code requires UL9540. Your last statement is probably true that DIY LFP batteries are safer than the cheap LiPo batteries that you buy off of amazon and elsewhere. However...
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    Luxpower LXP6K vs EG4 6000XP

    Fair enough. My small system is technically not legal either but it’s quite small and more for backup emergency power at this point. This LXP6K just seems very attractive in terms of features for the price but I’m trying to figure out what people will be using them for when we have such strict...
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    Luxpower LXP6K vs EG4 6000XP

    Thanks. I'm just trying to figure out why someone would buy this in Canada when it seems like you can't really use it legally, except for maybe putting it in an uninhabited out building, with heated batteries or something.
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    Luxpower LXP6K vs EG4 6000XP

    Thanks. This is what I thought, but I'm trying to understand what can you use these for(legally) in Canada currently There's a Canadian company selling them, listed as CSA approved, but Off-Grid. So wondering what's the point of selling them if you can't use them here... unless you just don't...
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    Luxpower LXP6K vs EG4 6000XP

    Can someone help me understand where we can legally(meet code and pass inspection) use this in Canada/Ontario? I see the LXP6K is UL 1741 and CSA C22.2#107.1:2016 Ed.4+U1 What use cases can you use this here? From previous research, I thought UL9540(which requires paired batteries) is required...
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    Overpaneling. How much is too much?

    Victron seems to state a limit. For example the 250/100 SCC it says max of 70A short circuit current. But it's due to the reverse polarity protection: "A higher short circuit current may damage the solar charger in case of reverse polarity connection of the PV array." It seems like you're safe...
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    EP Cube Review

    Don't get me wrong, I've love to have the fully certified ESS(UL9540) system for as cheap as some of these off grid systems. The PowerPro definitely seems to meet the criteria for indoor usage in Canada, USA, and probably elsewhere. I think the inverter has to be certified WITH the battery as an...
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    EP Cube Review

    Isn't the 6000XP an off grid inverter without any UL9540 certification and can only be used in off grid/non-permitted installations? It's not a bad unit from what I've seen but it doesn't quite match up with the EP Cube in terms of being able to be installed legally as an ESS in a residential...
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    EP Cube Review

    What EG4 setup are you comparing? It looks like the base ep cube 9.9kWh system with a 7.6kW inverter is $9806 from signature Solar. But it has all the certifications needed to get permitted and be legit. The EG4 power pro system with the 18kpv and 14.3kWh is a comparable price at $9096. You...
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    New Ontario Utility Rates coming - good or bad for DIY Solar?

    Got to searching as I'm curious about this. From here https://esasafe.com/assets/files/esasafe/pdf/Electrical_Safety_Products/Bulletins/64-08-1.pdf So it looks like the minimum is UL 9540, and it can be installed in a non-habitable location even if it's not marked as "Suitable For Use in...
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    EP Cube Review

    I don't have much to add in terms of specifics, but just here to say I'd enjoy watching your review of this system. I watched the AveRage Joe video on it and it was fairly extensive install process but still good to watch.
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    Victron is Over-priced Eurotrash. Why would anybody buy Victron over an AiO?

    The only thing I dislike about my Victron setup is all the wires going everywhere. It's not as easy to make it look nice, although some people manage to. But wires inevitably have to criss cross a bit as there never seems to be a good way to run the wires without doing that when having multiple...
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    AOLithium (48V) Buyer Feedback

    Yeah it seems like I can't rely on the Victron shunt like I thought. I have the Current Threshold set to 0.1A, and at night it shows around 0.75-0.8A discharging with the constant load on so it does register it. But it still managed to miss out on counting some of the capacity some how. But...
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    AOLithium (48V) Buyer Feedback

    Update: All BMSs have come back on line. All cells seem to be in the approximate voltage range of 2.874-2.884 or so. Didn't record every one but they are all around there give or take.
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    AOLithium (48V) Buyer Feedback

    Yeah I know there is some sort of threshold to try and ignore what it thinks could be nuisance readings or whatever. I also have the power vent for my hot water heater plugged in, and was using the packs for laundry as I had finally gotten the battery packs up to 99% for a bit. Doing the...
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    AOLithium (48V) Buyer Feedback

    So I'm a bit of a goof and I managed to run my packs down to 0% SOC(LVD). As a reminder I have 1xSOK 100Ah 48v and 2xAOLithium 100Ah 48v batteries in parallel. I have a Victron shunt in line on the main negative where all current running in and out of all 3 batteries will pass through the...
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    Victron is Over-priced Eurotrash. Why would anybody buy Victron over an AiO?

    Maybe a better way to say it would be self consumption rather than idle consumption?
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    Victron SCC's and oversizing of PV array

    I had wondered about this, like how much can you over panel? According to the manual for the 250/100, it says max short circuit current of 70A https://www.victronenergy.com/upload/documents/Datasheet-SmartSolar-charge-controller-MPPT-250-70-up-to-250-100-VE.Can-EN.pdf The 250/100 says it can...
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    Why Hasn't Aolithium Gotten More Attention?

    Definitely not a scam. I have 2 batteries in service. It appears they had a lot of orders though, and shipping time is taking a while for some people.
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    AOLithium (48V) Buyer Feedback

    The Victron shunt is set to 0.10A. It could be possible that the BMS has a similar threshold. In my case, 0.8A total(30W or so) with 0.5A shown on the SOK leaves 0.3A split between 2 batteries and would be like 7W per battery. So yeah it's not really a huge deal, unless you ran it like that...
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    AOLithium (48V) Buyer Feedback

    So far I don't have a DC clamp meter to measure low currents on the battery cables, to see if things match what the BMS shows. It's possible that the display just shows 0A and actually is counting it, even if the current is low, but someone may be able to confirm. It would need a confirmed draw...
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    Aolithium 48v batteries. Should or shouldn’t I?

    OK, so I have my 2 batteries set up and paralleled with an SOK server rack battery. After a bit of balancing, they are settled in, although in different SOC than the SOK(expected). I have to charge everything up to full and balance them all to 100% still(darn overcast weather). One thing I've...
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