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THE WORKING POOR & off the shelf inverters ..

offgriddle

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I DO NOT BEGRUDGE those who are bright, gifted and talented who as a result of their remarkable abilities can afford things like zillion dollar PV systems, Tesla's and state of the art solar sheds, in fact I respect, admire and even love such individuals. With the aforementioned in mind, the working poor also need to generate electricity in order to have a chance at living at least, "third world light". So, rather than obsessing over bragging rights about forking over the stacks of cabbage required to purchase gazillion watt PV systems and space age pure sine wave nirvana yada, instead, go to Napa or your fav box store and get an off the shelf invertor and join the revolution!
 
Local pawn shops may be an option too. I bought a used Samlex 1000 Watt pure sine wave inverter (solid quality) a few years back that was about the half price compared to new. A real bargain for me at the time.
 
Local pawn shops may be an option too. I bought a used Samlex 1000 Watt pure sine wave inverter (solid quality) a few years back that was about the half price compared to new. A real bargain for me at the time.
Good idea thank you.
 
Craigslist is a good source where I am in Ohio. There is a business in a city called North Lawrence that almost always has piles of solar panels that they buy from installations that have been removed. They also have these huge batteries that weigh more than my trailer. In my case, I was going to use credit anyway so why not buy new. And for me, I have both space and weight restrictions so I went with a 100ah lithium battery rather than 2 lead acid that will give me that same 100ah of usable power. I am far from rich. Just willing to go into debt. I am now at the age where I am going to start buying whatever I want because if I die deeply in debt, who cares? I'm dead. I just hope my one friend gets to my computers immediately after he finds out I died to format the hard drives. Because, well..... you know.
 
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I walk thru my local pawn shop once a week. Haven't seen any inverters, but there are a bunch of jump starters.
I live in an area with a modest percentage of the population are doing relatively financially well from enjoying success in the shrinking, free enterprise sector or from being employed in the unsustainable, bloated government sector. This means there's a big ole fat, dumb and happy gubment raised working poor majority, which also means that despite being a relatively rural area, there are quite a few surprisingly large pawn Mecca's as well a plethora of discount chains selling metric tons of overpriced, tariffed then taxed again junk imported from the Pacific rim. Now I checked on Craigslist and pawn shops and being from a two economic class region where the relatively wealthy either don't need to care about solar anything or to be fashionable they just hire professional solar contractors to come in and do everything and then just write a check, and where the aforementioned government raised fat dumb and happy have neither the motivation, interest, intellect or money to invest in solar, there's virtually nothing used around cheer. Slow and steady wins the race!
 
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Craigslist is a good source where I am in Ohio. There is a business in a city called North Lawrence that almost always has piles of solar panels that they buy from installations that have been removed. They also have these huge batteries that weigh more than my trailer. In my case, I was going to use credit anyway so why not buy new. And for me, I have both space and weight restrictions so I went with a 100ah lithium battery rather than 2 lead acid that will give me that same 100ah of usable power. I am far from rich. Just willing to go into debt. I am not at the age where I am going to start buying whatever I want because if I die deeply in debt, who cares? I'm dead. I just hope my one friend gets to my computers immediately after he finds out I died to format the hard drives. Because, well..... you know.
Ok Ed I don't want to be all gloomy and doomy, but I'm kind of a realist. Now I don't want to depress you, but you should plan for the worst case scenario of the possibility of living a long, long time and if the worst case scenario does occur, you don't want to have your particle board living room furniture that you purchased on a Wally World credit card at 28% interest, or the 200 inch screen television that your renting to watch the Brown's on, repossessed because you got too old to remember to make the payments. ~ Regarding your computer ...... take it for a one way ride over the Cuyahoga then start fresh and keep it, (relatively), clean!
 
Solar and Son Used Solar & Pawn
 
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Ok Ed I don't want to be all gloomy and doomy, but I'm kind of a realist. Now I don't want to depress you, but you should plan for the worst case scenario of the possibility of living a long, long time and if the worst case scenario does occur, you don't want to have your particle board living room furniture that you purchased on a Wally World credit card at 28% interest, or the 200 inch screen television that your renting to watch the Brown's on, repossessed because you got too old to remember to make the payments. ~ Regarding your computer ...... take it for a one way ride over the Cuyahoga then start fresh and keep it, (relatively), clean!

NO chance with my health will I go anything past 80 if I even make it there. That's 12 more years. I didn't say I wasn't going to make payments. I just said that I don't care how deep in debt I am. I keep my credit use at 10%. I am at a place that I can run that up to 75%, make minimum payments, and not outlive the debt. And get to use ALL that great stuff I spent that money on! My house, my car, and my personal loan all have credit life on them,so they are paid when I croak. My medical future is free, provided by the VA, which also means it is indirectly provided by you fine people who pay taxes. Truth be told, I am pretty much out of stuff I can buy without being stupid. I should have stopped buying computers like 3 ago. I have 4 guitars, and I don't play guitar anymore. 2 TVs, both 55", and the 32" sitting on the floor when I bought the last 55". And I live alone with a dog. I buy stuff whether I need it or not because I see a good deal and can't resist.

What is shocking given all those excesses and repetitions is that I have one pair of shoes, one jacket, and I wear nothing but "lazy laying around yoga pants" and gray t-shirts. I have 6 of each. After years of shirts and ties working in IT I never want to dress up again. All that stuff I have and I dress like I am homeless.

As far as the computer and the river, I'll be dead. I just need to get the "special" P drive formatted, lest people get wind of that collection of movies featuring extremely well endowed females, though it would help everybody understand the very particular taste I have in women.... LOL!!!!
 
80's not a bad run you know and I would tell you about what comes after life after life, but you'll have to send me a check for twenty five dollars first. I'm glad you have a dog, I get so attached I'm not sure if I could handle saying goodbye to em anymore. Boobs are divine and there's not one bad thing about em.
 
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Entertaining banter, but silly at best. I'm an old fart, fixing to be sixty-six come this December, and my parents were raised during the great depression by farmers and ranchers; my father flew Mustangs over Germany during WWII protecting the B-17's bombing the crap out of the German factories and whatever else is in the way. They taught me many lessons on life so, I'm going to pass along a couple that I think appropriate to the conversation.

The first thing is never to envy; it is the path to discontent. Besides, wealth is relevant, isn't it? I retired early to take care of my disabled daughter because her mother is batshit crazy with bi-polar disorder. I get a measly $1548 a month before they take out a $146 premium for my medicare; this plus my daughter's SSI disability check, we do okay. I also have a side gig, from home, maintaining an inventory system I wrote while I was still running my business (before retiring) that makes me some good extra coin. We live in a shithole 2-bedroom apartment, but it's a cheap shithole for $565/month where everything else is $850 plus in this hood. I own both my Jeeps, Bought them used, cash, and fixed them up as I could, didn't take long. My point is because I live cheap, and not beyond my means; I consider my self wealthy beyond my own expectations because I don't owe anyone a dime! I can do what I want when I want to do it. I sold my sailboat back in January, broke my heart, I love to sail, but too old to sail her by myself anymore, and not appropriate to live in with my daughter, too cramped. We're saving up to rig up a used class C, a cheap fixer-upper, and going Nomad for as long as we want. And that brings up my second lesson; neither a borrower nor lender be. My first wife drove me to bankruptcy with credit, and while paying my way back out of debtors hell, I swore never to go there again, and to this date, I've not borrowed a penny! I do it in the old fashioned way, I have a savings account, and because I live cheaply, I can save a lot of money real fast. The last thing I'll add is that patience is a virtue, and nothing could be truer, remember that if you remember anything. Save your money, shop around, and keep your eye out for a good deal, and have the cash-money to make the deal.

When I spend my money, I buy the best I can afford, new, from a reputable firm, with a warranty, and I'll save up for it. Yeah, every now and then, you can find a deal at a pawn shop, but a pawn shop is not in the business of good deals contrary to popular belief; they're in the business of making money. Craigslist is a better option, it's a human nature thing, and I'll explain why that is if you're curious. I worked at a pawn shop in Slidell, Louisiana for a year; the owner was a friend of my present, or third wife, who is batshit crazy. It was one of the most interesting jobs I ever had, and I've had a variety of interesting jobs I can assure you. You're rarely going to get a good deal at a pawn shop, take my word for it.
 
Entertaining banter, but silly at best. I'm an old fart, fixing to be sixty-six come this December, and my parents were raised during the great depression by farmers and ranchers; my father flew Mustangs over Germany during WWII protecting the B-17's bombing the crap out of the German factories and whatever else is in the way. They taught me many lessons on life so, I'm going to pass along a couple that I think appropriate to the conversation.

The first thing is never to envy; it is the path to discontent. Besides, wealth is relevant, isn't it? I retired early to take care of my disabled daughter because her mother is batshit crazy with bi-polar disorder. I get a measly $1548 a month before they take out a $146 premium for my medicare; this plus my daughter's SSI disability check, we do okay. I also have a side gig, from home, maintaining an inventory system I wrote while I was still running my business (before retiring) that makes me some good extra coin. We live in a shithole 2-bedroom apartment, but it's a cheap shithole for $565/month where everything else is $850 plus in this hood. I own both my Jeeps, Bought them used, cash, and fixed them up as I could, didn't take long. My point is because I live cheap, and not beyond my means; I consider my self wealthy beyond my own expectations because I don't owe anyone a dime! I can do what I want when I want to do it. I sold my sailboat back in January, broke my heart, I love to sail, but too old to sail her by myself anymore, and not appropriate to live in with my daughter, too cramped. We're saving up to rig up a used class C, a cheap fixer-upper, and going Nomad for as long as we want. And that brings up my second lesson; neither a borrower nor lender be. My first wife drove me to bankruptcy with credit, and while paying my way back out of debtors hell, I swore never to go there again, and to this date, I've not borrowed a penny! I do it in the old fashioned way, I have a savings account, and because I live cheaply, I can save a lot of money real fast. The last thing I'll add is that patience is a virtue, and nothing could be truer, remember that if you remember anything. Save your money, shop around, and keep your eye out for a good deal, and have the cash-money to make the deal.

When I spend my money, I buy the best I can afford, new, from a reputable firm, with a warranty, and I'll save up for it. Yeah, every now and then, you can find a deal at a pawn shop, but a pawn shop is not in the business of good deals contrary to popular belief; they're in the business of making money. Craigslist is a better option, it's a human nature thing, and I'll explain why that is if you're curious. I worked at a pawn shop in Slidell, Louisiana for a year; the owner was a friend of my present, or third wife, who is batshit crazy. It was one of the most interesting jobs I ever had, and I've had a variety of interesting jobs I can assure you. You're rarely going to get a good deal at a pawn shop, take my word for it.
Cajun, thanks for the great writing and sharing of your thoughts experience and wisdom, thank you. I just shared this song with Ed and I'd like to share it with you too. Don't be a stranger, peace.
 
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For the past decade, I have only been buying gray, crew socks. No miss, no fuss, no matching, they go with everything, I can put them in the wash with anything and they don't nerd me out when I'm wearing shorts!
 
Pfft. I haven't worn shoes or socks since last April. Only just started socks again last week, and only white. I have a pile of whites. Stack of t-shirts, couple pairs of shorts and jeans. One suit which gets worn twice a year for an hour.

Retired is the bomb......
 
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Yeah, I'm a student of human nature, learned it well while being a supervisor, you learn just how crazy people can be.
You got that right, and with that being said, we also benefit from
Pfft. I haven't worn shoes or socks since last April. Only just started socks again last week, and only white. I have a pile of whites. Stack of t-shirts, couple pairs of shorts and jeans. One suit which gets worn twice a year for an hour.

Retired is the bomb......
I have a ton of clothes that don't fit anymore, but that's okay because I'm in jeans as a rule and have shoes off a lot outside because grounding is Divine. (Look up "earthing for health YouTube).
 
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