I would have the PoCo drop a meter into the existing base. And begin repairing the disconnected existing solar system the minute the inspectors left. No idea what a residency permit is.
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seneysolar
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Maybe find an electrician to work with and get all the "cut wires" taken care of, building wiring squared away and so on. Maybe even have him do a generator input plug to the main panel so you have a power source temporarily (Later this circuit can be input from solar/inverter).
Then, IF THEY ARE WILLING TO LEARN, sometimes spoon feeding a trusted electrician with the properly sized components is better than the "solar guy" whos trying to sell sell sell. I have no doubt any licensed electrician can properly hook up an inverter with the manual in front of him. He may even "catch the bug" and become the areas new solar guy...
With some information on the existing solar panels, we can tell you series/ parallel configuration, wire size , combiner box, and charge controller recommendations.
If you do decide to go with a Solark unit , they are very easy to install, have a decent manual, and 7 days/week tech support.
Then, IF THEY ARE WILLING TO LEARN, sometimes spoon feeding a trusted electrician with the properly sized components is better than the "solar guy" whos trying to sell sell sell. I have no doubt any licensed electrician can properly hook up an inverter with the manual in front of him. He may even "catch the bug" and become the areas new solar guy...
With some information on the existing solar panels, we can tell you series/ parallel configuration, wire size , combiner box, and charge controller recommendations.
If you do decide to go with a Solark unit , they are very easy to install, have a decent manual, and 7 days/week tech support.
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zanydroid
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This is true though unless you overpanel a lot. It may be viable if you have a lot of land you don’t mind using.
You can have sustainable cooling because generation and demand are seasonally aligned.
For heating the generation is way down when the demand is way up. And you generally need more energy for heating to boot, vs cooling.
Installer not knowing EG4 is fine, they don’t market to installers until maybe recently if at all. There’s multiple parallel universes of products in solar that don’t talk to each other, and that’s fine.
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seneysolar
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Not sure about Oregon but here in Michigan, our winters are terrible for solar. Dark gray overcast for weeks straight. Lucky to get 100watts out of a 2000watt array. Batteries would be dead by tomorrow if trying to heat with it.
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zanydroid
Solar Wizard
Yes, the places that need the most heat, also get the least sun in the winter
Pretty hard to be fully self sufficient with just solar if you are that far north… need to like harvest wood or something and have a low enough population. Or import fuel. Animals and birds migrate for a reason. I don’t even think perfect seasonal energy storage will be enough.
zanydroid
Solar Wizard
Producing 10% more on a terrible base / poor available sunlight is not a game changer
robbob2112
Doing more research, mosty harmless
You may want to learn a bit more before buying the inverter from anyone local. Check current connected's website or signature solar. The Sol-Ark inverters are generally good and reliable.
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Make sure any proposal lists the model number of the inverter he wants to install. Then you can see what the go for.
If you are staying grid tied there will be a lot more involved to get things up to snuff that the solar guy can do easy.
For you piles of dirt and refuse they may be wanting to take samples for chemical contamination as well as other hazardous wastes. If they are staying they won't want that seeping into the ground. Worst case they find something and require it be hauled by someone licenced to handle it to a hazardous waste disposal site. If they don't have a requirement to get a permit to haul it off you might be better off getting rid of it.
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Make sure any proposal lists the model number of the inverter he wants to install. Then you can see what the go for.
If you are staying grid tied there will be a lot more involved to get things up to snuff that the solar guy can do easy.
For you piles of dirt and refuse they may be wanting to take samples for chemical contamination as well as other hazardous wastes. If they are staying they won't want that seeping into the ground. Worst case they find something and require it be hauled by someone licenced to handle it to a hazardous waste disposal site. If they don't have a requirement to get a permit to haul it off you might be better off getting rid of it.
seneysolar
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Makes no sense. If you hired an electrician to get you hooked to grid power, they would deny a permit based on the garbage out back???
They didn't have any requirements for the building wiring itself or actual repairs?
They didn't have any requirements for the building wiring itself or actual repairs?
250w panels have been the mainstay of Australian installs for decades- my uncles place (built for the 2000 Sydney Olympic Games, to house the athletes and officials and sold off afterwards to private buyers) has 12x 250w panels on the roof (3kw)- even the system at my old place I was living which had a brand new system installed in 2016 was only using 22x 270W panels (6kw)...
It's only been the last few years that panels bigger than 300w have been used (and many smaller companies still stay under that 300W level- simply because panels larger than that are a '2 man per panel' install, where the smaller panels can be safely carried by one person- so although the panels are cheaper per watt in the bigger panels- your installation costs go up over the smaller ones... (twice the people needed, heavier lifting gear etc all drive up the price over the minimal savings you get with the using the larger panels over the smaller ones...)
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robbob2112
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Shrug, you can try to fight city hall or you can hire a crew and clean the place up.
If you choose to fight city hall I hope you have deep pockets. If they do any one of a number of things like declaring it a blight and seizing it as part of eminent domain, report it to the EPA so you have to pay for cleanup and monitoring wells to make sure the soil isn't leaking chemicals into the water. And good luckgetting it rezoned residential if you intend to live there. Sure seems pretty and green for industrial zoning.
If you clean the place up and dispose of the trash you can work with them and install a system like you want.
Big problem of course is you didn’t get the prior owner to clean it up as a condition of sale. A Senior Chief Petty Officer in the Navy once told me, trade ot take anything excep for Hazmat, never take that because then you gotta figure out how to dispose of it
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If you choose to fight city hall I hope you have deep pockets. If they do any one of a number of things like declaring it a blight and seizing it as part of eminent domain, report it to the EPA so you have to pay for cleanup and monitoring wells to make sure the soil isn't leaking chemicals into the water. And good luckgetting it rezoned residential if you intend to live there. Sure seems pretty and green for industrial zoning.
If you clean the place up and dispose of the trash you can work with them and install a system like you want.
Big problem of course is you didn’t get the prior owner to clean it up as a condition of sale. A Senior Chief Petty Officer in the Navy once told me, trade ot take anything excep for Hazmat, never take that because then you gotta figure out how to dispose of it
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HighDesertOffgrid
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You have existing solar infrastructure on the property. Now that you have invited vampires across the threshold, are they requiring you to remove the existing panels? Are they requiring you to have electricity on the property?
robbob2112
Doing more research, mosty harmless
Put up solar without their permit and they will fine you per day until you take it down. I do agree with you that they have no business permitting off grid unless they look at it as a fire danger to others.
The inspector should have to site rules you are breaking that are the reason to not allow the grid permit. IMO when I it comes to AHJ you have to know the rules and play by them no matter how ridiculous if you want to get things done.
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