diy solar

diy solar

New EG4 Chargeverter V2

HighTechLab said:
It's rather funny that the GC (stands for generator control) functionality was added due to feedback from this forum and now that EG4 developed and added it, people are upset that it made the product a bit more expensive.
Click to expand...
Yes it looks like they really listened to the feedback.
It always amazes me how people will spend hundreds of dollars on a product and then make a hard pass on spending a few dollars more on the better model.
HighTechLab said:
That said, I think some of the differences with the new chargeverter is poorly noted and make the higher price a fair representation of the value added.
Click to expand...
The one feature that would have been nice is a slow ramp up on the charge current.
I also have mixed feeling on the benefits of Comm communication when it states that "the Inverter cannot be connected to Comms at the same time as the Chargeverter". That means you have to unhook the RS485 cable, which kind of makes the Auto Gen Start a little less attractive.

HighTechLab said:
The new chargeverter has a removable input cord, so swapping from 120v plug to 240v plug is very easy. The output is now Dexgon (similar to amphenol) connectors so the output cords can be easily unplugged - and shops like mine will soon be able to offer custom cables could provide you whichever length and ring terminal config you like - or give you options if you need to move the chargeverter between systems. The screen is way better too, overall efficiency is significantly increased meaning less energy wasted as heat.
Click to expand...
Seems like the extra $50 is not a bad for what you get.
I had to buy a Nema L5-30P to L14-30P adapter so that I could keep things neat and run it on 120V or 240V without messing with the wiring.
That was a $20 expense right there!
 
robby said:
It always amazes me how people will spend hundreds of dollars on a product and then make a hard pass on spending a few dollars more on the better model.
Click to expand...
It's a 20% increase in price.
And everyone has a different perspective on what better is.
Simple and reliable is what sold me on the original version. It just worked, right out of the box. The only thing that anyone might have wanted to change was the $2 plug. If they wanted to use it for 120v.
A more complex screen with more settings. And extra plugs and attachments to buy. Isn't my idea of better.

I have no problem with offering different versions for different customers.
I think that they should be offering both versions.
That's how you serve all of the customers.
And then you can discontinue the version that isn't selling. I'm pretty sure that we all know how that would go.
But forcing 100% of the customers to pay more for features that only 5% of the customers asked for, seems like a bad plan.
Not to mention that the original version was already established in the market. And the new version will have to be field tested for 6 months, all over again. Before we even know if it will be relatively reliable.
 
timselectric said:
It's a 20% increase in price.
And everyone has a different perspective on what better is.
Simple and reliable is what sold me on the original version. It just worked, right out of the box. The only thing that anyone might have wanted to change was the $2 plug. If they wanted to use it for 120v.
A more complex screen with more settings. And extra plugs and attachments to buy. Isn't my idea of better.

I have no problem with offering different versions for different customers.
I think that they should be offering both versions.
That's how you serve all of the customers.
And then you can discontinue the version that isn't selling. I'm pretty sure that we all know how that would go.
But forcing 100% of the customers to pay more for features that only 5% of the customers asked for, seems like a bad plan.
Not to mention that the original version was already established in the market. And the new version will have to be field tested for 6 months, all over again. Before we even know if it will be relatively reliable.
Click to expand...
I am just so glad I bought my 4 all at once, done.

Your post is spot on with my thoughts.......
 
Yeah, one is all that I should ever need. (Up to 120kwh/day)
I already have the two that I planned for in my system. (Will never run at the same time)
I would like to have a 3rd for a spare. I'll just keep my eye on the marketplace.
 
I agree. Kicked myself late last year for not stocking up on the many specialized and solid components needed. Hence I missed out on normal pricing & availability of the Original v1 Chargeverter. Now that I found limited availability, snapped it up.
I'm now doing this with everything in my system. (Thanks for advice @timselectric) (y)
My generator has no auto start anything. Manual pull-string startup. Suits me just fine. Stupid Simple.
 
timselectric said:
It's a 20% increase in price.
And everyone has a different perspective on what better is.
Simple and reliable is what sold me on the original version. It just worked, right out of the box. The only thing that anyone might have wanted to change was the $2 plug. If they wanted to use it for 120v.
A more complex screen with more settings. And extra plugs and attachments to buy. Isn't my idea of better.

I have no problem with offering different versions for different customers.
I think that they should be offering both versions.
That's how you serve all of the customers.
And then you can discontinue the version that isn't selling. I'm pretty sure that we all know how that would go.
But forcing 100% of the customers to pay more for features that only 5% of the customers asked for, seems like a bad plan.
Not to mention that the original version was already established in the market. And the new version will have to be field tested for 6 months, all over again. Before we even know if it will be relatively reliable.
Click to expand...
If this was the first version would you still find the price tag unreasonable?
 
robby said:
If this was the first version would you still find the price tag unreasonable?
Click to expand...
Yes, because you can get a budget AIO for about the same price.
Which is why version one sold like hotcakes.
It was just low enough (barely) to make it worth buying, instead.
 
There's a few. It's been a while since I looked.
Any of the rebranded Voltronics should have a lower priced model.
The other benefits are an extra MPPT and a backup inverter for emergencies.
 
Honestly,.. My use case is a "Chargeverter Lite" with only 1 of the power supplies to be 120V input only. Very basic settings for voltage and current and maybe a timer with the most economical display they can find.. Zero bells please..
 
SparkyJJO said:
Which AIO? Genuinely curious.
Click to expand...
SRNE HF 5kW or the HYP for a bit more.
~$520 for the HF.
Could probably find a rebrand for around the same price.
There are also the Voltronics like Tim mentioned, I don't see why a Growatt wouldn't work either.

I can see the appeal of the Chargeverter I just can't understand the price with all the "tier 2" AIOs on the market.

In the spirit of DIY you could also pick up a couple Emerson R48-3000E3 rectifiers for ~$160 bucks.
 
timselectric said:
Yes, because you can get a budget AIO for about the same price.
Which is why version one sold like hotcakes.
It was just low enough (barely) to make it worth buying, instead.
Click to expand...

Probably part of the EG4 master plan to have everything networked and connected. "Buy our stuff since it all connects together". I'm surprised they didn't add Bluetooth, Wifi and an Ethernet port to it. Geez.
A USB port to configure it would make sense. Anything else is pure fluff.
Checkout the thread on the Chargenectifier on this forum if you don't want to pay for the paint job and the screen.
 
42OhmsPA said:
SRNE HF 5kW or the HYP for a bit more.
~$520 for the HF.
Could probably find a rebrand for around the same price.
There are also the Voltronics like Tim mentioned, I don't see why a Growatt wouldn't work either.

I can see the appeal of the Chargeverter I just can't understand the price with all the "tier 2" AIOs on the market.

In the spirit of DIY you could also pick up a couple Emerson R48-3000E3 rectifiers for ~$160 bucks.
Click to expand...

2000 watt flat packs are $50 each. But you will need to add some cords and an interface board. If you can't add a cord, you are probably in the wrong forum.
 
I'm glad I needed 2 last year but bought 3 pcs. just to have an extra spare.
The yellow color is a but much though...thinking maybe I should paint them white...hm... ;)
 
You must log in or register to reply here.

Similar threads

Cronix
(updated) Signature Solar 48v Chargeverter
2 3
Replies
42
Views
2K
EG4_Jared
EG4_Jared
T
V1 chargeverter refurbished (2 Y warranty)
Replies
1
Views
199
OffGridForGood
OffGridForGood
W
Chargeverter Woes
2
Replies
29
Views
2K
threepets
threepets
N
Chargeverter on 120v?
Replies
12
Views
806
timselectric
T
S
Issues with EG4 Chargeverter Shipping (Current Connected)
2 3 4
Replies
75
Views
4K
Mr onetwo
Mr onetwo
Back
Top