Can Solar & Wind Fix Everything (e.g., Climate Change) with a battery break-through?
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And climate change means Santa's house is warming up, so he has less time with the elves to make all the presents for all the little kids mining cobalt for batteries.Southern blight Spreads
A stem and root rot disease that affects 500 plant species is caused by a fungus, Agroathelia rolfsii. It’s often thought of as affecting hot Southern gardens, but was first seen in Pennsylvania in 2018.
How Urgent is Climate Change?
When compared to global nuclear war, the spread of communism, inflation, cost of health care, or gun violence it seems pretty small because we don't see the changes in our day to day lives. We don't see or attribute the suffering it causes like we do on child-labor in African countries or the billions in the sex slave industry.
Whatever your big concerns are, climate change is probably making
them worse. For example, weaning the world off gas & oil removes
income from countries (e.g., Russia) reducing their ability to wage
wars.
Inflation: The cost of Weather Disasters
Probably the most concrete cost to point to is the increase we've spent on weather related disasters as shown to the right. Each years it costs us billions, had we had the foresight to spend that money on prevention we could have fixed the problem by now.
The longer we delay, the more it costs us
Because it's not urgent, we delay. As we delay more GHGs go into
the atmosphere where they will live for 100s of years. So not only
will the temperature go higher, but we'll have problems for longer.
The only line in the graph to the right that keeps things were we are
now (you know, spending $600 billion a year on weather) is the green
one. Current policies, because it's not urgent, put us at 2.5 to 2.9C by
2100. Some tipping points have already started and they can push the
temperature beyond expectations.
Reducing emissions is a start, but what's there stays there for 100s of
years unless we spend to remove it faster. That means we're already
committed to 100s of years of warming.
Emissions going down doesn't halt warming
It is Killing people as well as animals
The WHO predicts that between 2030 and 2050 there will be 250,000 additional deaths from climate change induced undernutrition, malaria, diarrhea, and heat stress alone. A study from the Monash University found there were five million deaths annually due to abnormal hot and cold temperatures between 2000 and 2019. The Bramble Cay melomys is the first species officially recognized to have gone extinct from climate change.
Migration
People coming across the border worry you? Some of those people are leaving their homes due to environmental changes. The EU has been flooded with people leaving thier homelands, and it's happening here too. One million Somalis were displaced by drought in 2022 alone. ref
We don't know what we Don't Know
The original climate change accord set the +1.5C to be safe and give some margin from the +2.0C where it was believed tipping points would come into play. The problem is, a lot of the dangers we face and where tipping points occur are based on puzzling the past events together. If it were one thing it could happen sooner or later. But it's not one thing, it's many things; so some will happen sooner. Some (melting of ice with methane, loss of albedo from melting ice) are already happening.
What can you do?
All the little things you can do will help of course (e.g., composting, insulation, home gardening, switching to an BEV/PHEV/FCEV for your next car purchase).
But probably the most important thing you can do is vote for the guys promising climate change action and get interviewed why you did. If enough people say both parties were essentially the same on big issues and it was climate change that tipped the balance the other parties will notice and adapt. Currently, the top leadership of the parties are fundamentally different on this issue. The election will probably be close, so even a small percentage switching their vote will make a difference. ref
The easter bunny likes it cold too, and he gets sad when his chocolate eggs melt too fast.
So all we are asking is that humans do without almost everything they like, eat bugs, and die fast, but give us trillions of dollars first, so we can send it to the carbon offset office in communist China.
Plus, Klaus needs a new EV mit better AC.
Do you think that "scientific evidence" that is supported by people pushing a specific agenda is or is not "bullshit".
TommySr
Solar Enthusiast
I've always admired the entrepreneurial spirit in my younger days, if I was starting out
now, I would be thinking mobile highspeed EV charging systems.
now, I would be thinking mobile highspeed EV charging systems.
Calling ppl deniers does not advance anything. It creates wider divide
TommySr
Solar Enthusiast
D71, I get that, but if I posted climate change is a hoax, even with all the information
posted, wouldn't that make me a climate change denier? wouldn't that me on me?
because I'm not earth climate expert, IMO for our kid's future we would be wrong not
to look at it. make some changes. I get it's not going to impact anyone here (I hope), but
we should address it. and getting rid of fossil fuels at least for personal transportation would be a win/win.
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Not really we all have to share this planet. Ppl have always disagreed. The problem we have now is one side is taking money and inconvenience the other side and if they protest are called denier.
Imagine if a rapist called ppl deniers for refusing to go along with their plan of rape. They would simply be called deniers. The other person would still be a rapist.
Some of us object to being forced to comply with their plans.
Govt is but should not be in charge of forcing climate change agendas. Biden should never have tried to force EV. Ppl usually rebel when forced.
TommySr
Solar Enthusiast
See it worked. Called increased taxation and national debt …. Most frogs don’t realize getting boiled if slowly raise heat until fully cooked.
Your and my grand children’s - grand children won’t be able repay it for National Debt. The Wealthy Criminals ppl have raped everyone…
TommySr
Solar Enthusiast
D71, IMO my grand parents couldn't, my parent's couldn't, and my generations can't
each time the debt goes up in the past has been due to wars, our kids had to die, yes
industries did benefit, and it could be said that WW2, Korea, Vietnam created the middle
class of the 50's, 60's and 70's . if the fight with climate change causes the National Debt
to go up at least it would be without our kids needing to be killed, a step in the right direction IMO
it may also create the next middle class. wars (even wars on climate changes) create innovations
If they have something to gain by “Pushing it” as you say then it is certainly suspicious.
Just remember that the fossil fuel industry has paid enormous sums of money to “push against it”.
So, I believe there is adequate reasons to consider both sides.
However, getting your information from social media is BULL SHIT.
There are scientific journals where you can get and analyze both sides as a rational human being.
Have you seen the latest about Covid? All the official websites talked about it. Told everyone questioning them were misinformation and deniers.
The cdc says treat covid like the flu now. Whew.
Virologist Explains the CDC’s New COVID Isolation Guidance | Johns Hopkins Bloomberg School of Public Health
The updated recommendations align guidance for COVID infection with that for other common respiratory viruses.
Glad didn’t take covid-19 vaccine. How does it feel to be vaxxed and learn you were ….. lied to by the experts?
They will now slip away with $5+ trillion dollars…that could have been used to improve our World. Hmmmm…. Taking the vaccineS was a placebo.
The fear mongering they are doing is the same.
Besides we have a comet going to kill us in 2 weeks send money.
This game has been played over and over. I am old and have been lied to over and over. My grand parents and parents survived the Great Depression. They said never trust the Govt. They were right. They went through hell and when got to retirement age were threatened doom and gloom Social Security going to end going to lose their retirements…. On and on. We are not allowed to live nor die with honor and dignity. Always some fuck head……
When if you get old you will maybe have learned. There is always a fucker working a con game. Go figure up all the doom and gloom events. Al Gore sold his vhs videos for $40 a piece about climate change. 1 of his homes had huge electric bill thousands dollars a month.
Please take a moment try to figure out what I am telling you. None of his predictions came true. He did get $40 a video.
Daddy Tanuki
Solar Wizard
mazda had rotary powered hydrogen test cars running all over japan about 22 years ago. then toyota started a fuss about how dangerous and explosive the fuel tanks would be..... they did this to crush mazdas chances while they advanced their fuel cell tech.... mazda went about it old school with a medium pressure tank vice a fuel cell. and got boo-fued by toyota.
svetz
Works in theory! Practice? That's something else
We can now stop worrying about the planet: FL Legislature has written climate change out of the law
Opinion: Well that's a relief! Guess I can stop posting about it.
Insurance...
Opinion: Guess they didn't get the HB1645 memo...
Swiss Ruling
Tenth consecutive monthly heat record alarms and confounds climate scientists
Opinion: Bravely going where no man has gone before...
How climate change will impact food production and financial institutions
How we know the PDO is not causing Climate Warming
Don't give in to hysteria. There's no need for such extremes to solve the problem, all of that is just crap spewed out to make you afraid. Electrification with renewables will cost less and improve everyone's life in a myriad ways (e.g., no smog from cars when everyone has an EV).
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Daddy Tanuki
Solar Wizard
QUICK THE SKY IS FALLING THE SKY IS FALLING THE SKY IS FALLING!
NetZero And Human Rights Are Mutually Exclusive
(Featuring: The Three Big Lies of “Climate Action”)
Everybody talks a good game when asked about environmental concerns. But they underestimate what real “climate action” will cost them, personally, and they’re prone to balking when they figure it out.
In 2018, The Energy Policy Institute at the University of Chicago conducted a survey of 1,202 people asking them if they thought climate change was an issue, and if so, how much were they willing to contribute, out of their own pockets, towards “fixing it”:
- 71% of the respondents said that climate change was a reality, and most of those thought human activity was largely responsible for it.
- 57% said they’d be willing to spend $1/month, or $12 annually.
- 23% were willing to go big: $40 a month, in order to “fix” climate change.
In other words, while most respondents believed that there was an impending climate crisis, they also believe they had already made all the personal lifestyle adjustments they’ll need to make in order to address it.
These attitudes are pretty typical of a populace who has already undergone massive conditioning by the media and academia around climate alarmism, but who otherwise live largely insular, bubble-wrapped lifestyles and think food comes from Uber Eats.
They have no idea that that climate targets, like “netzero” or Agenda 2030 will cost more them more than a few hundred bucks a year, per person, to “fix”.
Even with carbon taxes becoming more prevalent – citizens think the extent of the impact on their lives are the economic pressures of them inexorably rising (here in Canada, the carbon tax went up 23% on April 1st, the same day all federal Members of Parliament got a pay raise).
That’s bad enough – but people are still completely unprepared for what has already been decided from on high for their personal destinies:
Climate Action requires a complete re-ordering of society and civilization itself.
“De-carbonization” requires “#degrowth”, a euphemistic hashtag that really means forced austerity on all of humanity – save for those apparatchiks imposing it on the rest of us.The Big Lie of climate alarmism is threefold:
- That the climate goals of netzero and decarbonization can boost the economy and increase prosperity for all
- That achieving said goals will afford us control over the climate and alter the planetary physics of the earth itself
- That this is all “settled science”
Big Lie #1: Pursuing Netzero will boost prosperity
Many politicians like to gaslight us that there is a way achieve netzero targets in an economically beneficial manner. A good example, again here in Canada – is the carbon tax.
Everybody pays the carbon tax – on gas, on flights, on heating their homes, etc. Most households get a “carbon tax rebate” – which is invariably, for less money than they have paid in carbon taxes. This is borne out in countless analyses on this, including the government’s own Parliamentary Budget Office report, which found that:
Yet the Trudeau government frames the rebate as “free money” for Canadians, and demonizes anybody who wants to “Axe The Tax” as though they are trying to take money away from taxpayers.
If decarbonization was economically viable, then it would be happening on its own, without governments and the corporate media relentlessly brainwashing us to do it.
For example, we would probably have mini-nuclear reactors all over the place by now if private industry was given some latitude to implement it.
Instead we have millions of hectares of wind turbines that are only “green” if you can amortize the carbon inputs over 30 or 40 years. Alas, the typical wind turbine is cooked within a decade (that’s if they don’t explode first). Apparently they can’t be recycled, either. It’s actually making the situation worse.
Big Lie #2: Achieving Netzero will enable us to control the planet’s climate
There has perhaps never been a more grandiose and categorically impossible vision for humanity than the one where technocrats and experts can massage the trajectory of global climate through the judicious employment of carbon taxes, personal carbon footprint quotas and forced collectivism.On the planetary level – it makes no difference if a country like Canada decarbonized 100% – compared to the emissions of China alone. Right now they’re lighting up two new coal fired plants every week. Wake me up when they decarbonize.
Not to mention numerous other countries who have no intention of foregoing their shot at economic prosperity at the behest of already an affluent (not to mention overly sanctimonious), West…
The discrepancies in values and aims between nation states already makes the 100% conformity that climate action requires a non-starter.“Let me stop you right there…”
Caribbean nation Guyana is booming after discovering oil. BBC’s Stephen Sackur puts it to President @presidentaligy; lobbyists say oil is bad for the climate.
Dude wasn’t having it. Mans was ready! pic.twitter.com/awy8OPIW2q
— Ranga.(@RangaMberi) March 29, 2024
That doesn’t even account for things we absolutely can’t control like the solar system itself.
The best and brightest minds can’t even get interest rates right, nor “manage the economy” and that’s near 100% human driven. What are we supposed to do about the elephant in the room in terms of the single most relevant driver of climate cycles here on the planet: the sun?
Our sun outputs an estimated 6 billion times more energy per second than all of humanity generates and consumes in an entire year. It is the likeliest candidate for what drives long term heating and cooling cycles, not only here on earth – but throughout the entire solar system.
Granted – that energy radiates in all directions – if you only count all the energy that actually hits earth, that number drops: to 100 million times annual energy usage, per second.
Source: NASA
No amount of carbon taxes or collectivism is going to overpower that.
Big Lie #3: The Science Is Settled™
Decades of propaganda and operant conditioning has browbeat the public into believing, or at least not arguing, that “the science is settled” when it comes to climate. One of the most well worn tropes around this is “97% of climate scientists agree” that “humans are causing global warming”.Marc Morano’s, ‘The Politically Incorrect Guide To Climate Change’, (essential reading) years ago exposed the origin of that magical number, “97%”:
In 2013, Australian researcher John Cook analyzed 11,944 peer-reviewed papers on climate change, from which the famous, mystical 97% figure emerged. It later came out (via UN lead author Richard Tol), that of those papers, 66.4% expressed “no opinion at all” on human-caused global warming. Those were eliminated.
The minority of papers that were left, and did express an opinion, were mostly on the same page, and Cook took his 97% from that.
What is actually true, however, from the study’s own numbers, is this:
- 11,944 papers were analyzed
- 7,930 of them expressed no opinion on AGW (66.4%)
- 97% of the remaining 4,013 papers did
Doesn’t have the same punch, does it?
Of course, since then, 97% became Holy Canon. So much so that any climate scientists who knew what side of the bread the butter was on, got the message loud and clear: your academic career depends on aligning with the consensus.
So called “climate deniers” are continually deplatformed and countervailing data suppressed. This may be changing, again owing to widespread disenfranchisement with how the “experts” managed the pandemic, the public seems to be more questioning.
The recent Climate The Movie: The Cold Truth has gone viral – and in it we see how the machinations of Big Climate may be driven more by junk science and hidden agendas than an altruistic desire to protect the environment.
So it’s no surprise then, that the climate alarmists are turning out in full force to have it suppressed:
Fortunately, the genie is out of the bottle now – Climate The Movie is being circulated far and wide, even having been uploaded to the decentralized InterPlanetary File System
After the botched policy responses to Covid, when it comes to climate, the public increasingly isn’t buying it. We’ll see this in action when the Canada’s Liberals, who have clearly gone “all in” on climate, lose the next election. I’ve been predicting a 1993-style blowout (when Bryan Mulroney’s deeply loathed Conservatives lost all but three seats, including their party status).
However, the public seemingly possesses but a single lever to resist all this: the ability to vote out politicians hellbent on impoverishing them.
But if the rabble continues in its propensity to vote the “wrong way”, how much longer will they be permitted to do so?
As we’ll see below – this lever will have to be rescinded, because otherwise the world will end.
Which is why the only forward course of action is political, economic and cultural tyranny.
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