SRNE 12kW IP65 HES and 10kW ASP

G00SE · Apr 28, 2024

gotbeans said:
I'd do option 1 but 50amp breaker, aren't they 5k watts each?

They are 10k each

B-Mod · Apr 28, 2024

42OhmsPA said:
Thinking ahead.
How would everyone go about wiring them up in parallel?

Option 1 - 6 AWG from each inverter to a double pole 60A breaker with L1's to one side of the bus and L2's to the other.

Option 2 - 6 AWG from each inverter to a power distribution block (I think that's what they are called, Engineer775 uses them in lots of his installs) then 2 AWG to a double pole 100A breaker.

I think option 1 would be "safer" but option 2 would make wiring easier.

I don't think I'll be connecting them to the grid at all, double conversation for grid charging with rectifiers if/when needed and use the inputs for the generator. My logic for this is I'm planning further ahead for my completely off grid setup someday (hopefully sooner than later).
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Or could you put both units in split phase output, and then feed a 200 amp panel with a 60 amp 2 pole breaker from each inverter?

gotbeans · Apr 28, 2024

G00SE said:
They are 10k each

each leg isn't 10k, the whole unit is 10k. you mean 5k each.. hence 50amp breaker
You don't use 1 breaker across the whole unit

G00SE · Apr 28, 2024

gotbeans said:
each leg isn't 10k, the whole unit is 10k. you mean 5k each.. hence 50amp breaker
You don't use 1 breaker across the whole unit

I meant each unit is 10k. I interpreted your 5k each as per inverter

B-Mod · Apr 28, 2024

gotbeans · Apr 28, 2024

B-Mod said:
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Are they telling you to put your neutral on a breaker?

42OhmsPA · Apr 28, 2024

B-Mod said:
Or could you put both units in split phase output, and then feed a 200 amp panel with a 60 amp 2 pole breaker from each inverter?

Yea, I should have expanded on my thoughts further. I'm going to run them into a dedicated "inverter" panel then feed the house panels from the inverter panel. I figure this will make it easier to add more, not that I'll ever need them; yet.

42OhmsPA · Apr 28, 2024

gotbeans said:
Are they telling you to put your neutral on a breaker?

I have no plans to.

Dave911 · Apr 28, 2024

42OhmsPA said:
Wasn't getting baba notifications.
Attached is the proforma invoice.
It will be ~$2300, after the baba fees for using a CC, for 2 ASP 10kW shipped air freight, DDP...

I chatted with an Ebay seller who is selling the ASP SRNE and they seem to do a lot of installation business. I get the impression they are actively installing the ASP inverters right now. I think this inverter is going to cause other sellers such as Midnite, etc to rethink their pricing. 20kw for $2300 is a game changer. The top tier guys want $10000 to get 20kw. What a mismatch!

realpinochet · Apr 28, 2024

Dave911 said:
I chatted with an Ebay seller who is selling the ASP SRNE and they seem to do a lot of installation business. I get the impression they are actively installing the ASP inverters right now. I think this inverter is going to cause other sellers such as Midnite, etc to rethink their pricing. 20kw for $2300 is a game changer. The top tier guys want $10000 to get 20kw. What a mismatch!

Depends, what is SRNE reputation for reliability, customer service and warranty? If you're relying on it to keep the lights on and the meat in the deep freezer good do you really want the cheapest option? I've never looked into SRNE so I don't know their history, if they can provide a comparable product to midnite, Schneider and solark then sure I can see this causing a disturbance in the force.

Zwy · Apr 29, 2024

42OhmsPA said:
Thinking ahead.
How would everyone go about wiring them up in parallel?

Option 2 - 6 AWG from each inverter to a power distribution block (I think that's what they are called, Engineer775 uses them in lots of his installs) then 2 AWG to a double pole 100A breaker.

Originally I posted to combine using a distribution block or Polaris type connector, however looking at the diagram, each inverter feeds a 120V leg similar to Voltronic inverters in parallel.

Zwy · Apr 29, 2024

gotbeans said:
each leg isn't 10k, the whole unit is 10k. you mean 5k each.. hence 50amp breaker
You don't use 1 breaker across the whole unit

Look at the diagram again, it appears each inverter supplies one leg, not both.

Not sure if this is 10Kw per 120V leg.

B-Mod said:
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Where did you get this? That would be 7.5Kw per leg?

Zwy · Apr 29, 2024

42OhmsPA said:
Thinking ahead.
How would everyone go about wiring them up in parallel?

Option 1 - 6 AWG from each inverter to a double pole 60A breaker with L1's to one side of the bus and L2's to the other.

Option 2 - 6 AWG from each inverter to a power distribution block (I think that's what they are called, Engineer775 uses them in lots of his installs) then 2 AWG to a double pole 100A breaker.

I think option 1 would be "safer" but option 2 would make wiring easier.

I don't think I'll be connecting them to the grid at all, double conversation for grid charging with rectifiers if/when needed and use the inputs for the generator. My logic for this is I'm planning further ahead for my completely off grid setup someday (hopefully sooner than later).
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Need some clarification on these diagrams. The big one in the post I believe is for 230V Euro.

This one is for 240V split phase?

Mattb4 · Apr 29, 2024

realpinochet said:
Depends, what is SRNE reputation for reliability, customer service and warranty? If you're relying on it to keep the lights on and the meat in the deep freezer good do you really want the cheapest option? I've never looked into SRNE so I don't know their history, if they can provide a comparable product to midnite, Schneider and solark then sure I can see this causing a disturbance in the force.

Midnite DIY AIO's are SRNE. Schneider is not Chinese sourced but Sol-Ark is.

It is a bit hard to guess reliability for many of these new models, brands and companies though Schneider has been around the longest and its old equipment was considered some of the best. Midnite has a very good reputation for service. However things can change abruptly and it is hard to foresee the future.

B-Mod · Apr 29, 2024

Zwy said:
Look at the diagram again, it appears each inverter supplies one leg, not both.

Not sure if this is 10Kw per 120V leg.

Where did you get this? That would be 7.5Kw per leg?