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AC combiner and home run

Bobgar

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I am in the last phase of my grid connected micro inverter install. I have all the trunk line combined in a breaker box. My question for anyone who may know, do i need a neutral line going to the disconnect and then to the main panel? Right now I have L1, L2, a ground, and a neutral wire. But each of the trunk lines only has 3 conductors. so I'm not sure exactly why I would need a fourth wire. unless the combiner counts as a sub panel by code?

Thanks to whom ever takes the time to read this!
 
I am in the last phase of my grid connected micro inverter install. I have all the trunk line combined in a breaker box. My question for anyone who may know, do i need a neutral line going to the disconnect and then to the main panel? Right now I have L1, L2, a ground, and a neutral wire. But each of the trunk lines only has 3 conductors. so I'm not sure exactly why I would need a fourth wire. unless the combiner counts as a sub panel by code?

Thanks to whom ever takes the time to read this!

Code allows you to have 240V only panels.

If you want the option to tap that combiner panel as a subpanel, then neutral makes it a lot easier. Especially since code forces you to install a lot of fancy breakers now that require neutral, even for 240V only loads.

Other use cases: I think Enphase combiner needs neutral. If you add things like Emporia / other energy monitors, they usually need neutral.

Overall, I really don't like 240V only panels.
 
Code allows you to have 240V only panels.

If you want the option to tap that combiner panel as a subpanel, then neutral makes it a lot easier. Especially since code forces you to install a lot of fancy breakers now that require neutral, even for 240V only loads.

Other use cases: I think Enphase combiner needs neutral. If you add things like Emporia / other energy monitors, they usually need neutral.

Overall, I really don't like 240V only panels.
Thank you for taking the time to respond!

I have already run the wire through conduit from the combiner to a disconnect. the disconnect isn't very big and trying to manage three 4 gauge wire and an 8 gauge ground has been a bit of a pain. i dont plan to use it as a sub panel, but since the wire is already there i would like to use it. I am not really sure what what kind of equipment I need to land the neutral wire in. the ground bars wont fit a 4 gauge wire. Any suggestions?
 
Neutral wires are supposed to be landed on a neutral bus bar, not the ground bars.

If you have neutral in a disconnect it should probably be spliced with a Polaris or insulated terminal block.
 
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