Explosion fears lead San Diego to explore regulating lithium-ion batteries, storage facilities

[k490]

Cities regulating battery storage could be a problem with the DIY market. At least before you could get away with claiming it was portable, or off-grid. I'm sure most of these fires are cheap electric scooters, and e-bikes. Cities won't care what kind of lithium it is just hear the word lithium and get triggered.

https://www.sandiegouniontribune.co...ting-lithium-ion-batteries-storage-facilities

Goes along with this mis-leading report where in order to create a fire for viewers they overcharge a lithium battery on purpose.

 

[aenyc]

You sure?

Alabama Firefighters Forced to Close Interstate, Pour 36,000 Gallons of Water Into Burning EV to Put It Out

"This was a first for Autauga County," a statement from authorities read. It likely won't be the last time, however.

www.westernjournal.com

 

[k490]

You sure?

Alabama Firefighters Forced to Close Interstate, Pour 36,000 Gallons of Water Into Burning EV to Put It Out

"This was a first for Autauga County," a statement from authorities read. It likely won't be the last time, however.

www.westernjournal.com

As of 2023 total number of Tesla's caught fire have been 198 cars out of 2.5 million on the road. The public thinks these cars are nitroglycerin

Gas powered cars don't catch fire?

 

[aenyc]

UK EV fires double in a year - Energy Live News

Fire and rescue services responded to nearly double the number of EV fires between July 2022 and June 2023, compared to the previous year, according to a report

www.energylivenews.com

The risk of EV battery fires should not be downplayed

They can be hotter, more toxic, quicker to spread – and possibly more explosive. Most experts agree that lithium battery fires are different and that the risks for people on board are serious. The industry needs to align and collaborate more to address the issue.

www.gard.no

Tesla Fire: Digital record of Tesla fire incidents

Tesla Fire records information about Tesla car fires and other Tesla fire incidents that received news coverage.

www.tesla-fire.com

Watch Tesla Model 3 Catch Fire After Debris Strike, Sparks Discussion On EV Safety

We examine the fire safety with electric vehicles after a 2022 Tesla Model 3 struck an object in the roadway, causing the battery pack to catch on fire.

insideevs.com

Tesla car battery 'spontaneously' catches fire on California freeway, requiring 6,000 gallons of water to put it out

No injuries were reported. Tesla CEO Elon Musk has previously stated only 0.01% of Teslas have ever caught fire.

www.nbcnews.com

Over 36,000 gallons of water used for electric vehicle fire on I-65

An electric vehicle crashed and caught fire Monday night in Autauga County.

www.wsfa.com

https://www.washingtonpost.com/technology/2021/08/04/tesla-fire/

The list is endless

 

[k490]

198 cars out of 2.5 million on the road? Have better chance of being struck by a lighting.

 

[aenyc]

198 cars out of 2.5 million on the road?

But how many gasoline cars spontaneously combust?
And if the numbers are so low, why is that fire departments are issuing special orders and giving recommendations not to park ev's in closed parking/garages?

 

[k490]

https://energy5.com/electric-cars-catch-fire-more-often-than-gasoline-cars

170k car catch fire annually. 4000 electric cars these are mostly after crashes not spontaneously. Media hyped makes a good story like Airplane crashes.

 

[aenyc]

https://energy5.com/electric-cars-catch-fire-more-often-than-gasoline-cars

170k car catch fire annually. 4000 electric cars these are mostly after crashes not spontaneously.

I bet you gasoline cars dont catch fire spontaneously, but EVs do because each EV battery is a combination of thousands of cells, and if only one cell has a problem for whatever reason (physical damage, manufacturing defect, quality oversight) the entire EV goes up in flames.
Then you get into the problem of an actual EV fire that is extremely toxic and nearly impossible to contain.

 

[aenyc]

A California couple's Tesla caught fire while charging overnight, ignited another Tesla next to it, and caused a massive house fire. They haven't been home in 8 months.

"The firemen said it was so hot that they couldn't walk up the driveway," Yogi Vindum told The Washington Post.

www.businessinsider.com

 

[aenyc]

Cargo ship carrying burning lithium-ion batteries reaches Alaska, but kept offshore for safety

By Paul Homewood ANCHORAGE, Alaska (AP) — A large cargo ship with a fire in its hold is being kept 2 miles (3.22 kilometers) offshore of an Alaska port as a precaution while efforts a…

notalotofpeopleknowthat.wordpress.com

Righteous Risks Part 3: The Electric Vehicle Halo

From the Risk Monger David Zaruk Just imagine if, in the coming months, the following studies would be published in peer-reviewed journals: That battery technologies used in electric vehicles (EVs)…

wattsupwiththat.com

 

[k490]

Media hype of single stories they don't cover 100k car fires

 

[aenyc]

Media hype of single stories they don't cover 100k car fires

Play a game. Take a little tiny cell phone LiO battery and emulate puncturing.
Just be sure to do it outdoors.

Now imagine an EV battery that is 1000 times larger.

Or dont

 

[k490]

I agree lithium batteries do catch fire the number of spontaneous fires are not high enough to require legislation. How many have caused a fatality, or disfigured someone's body like gasoline does. Lithium fire is hotter but doesn't spray fuel everywhere like gasoline does.

 

[aenyc]

I will agree with you about legislation. That never helps anyone except the cronies.
Also lithium fire is MUCH worse, as it spills fiery sparks all over the place, and what's worse, the amount of toxic pollution that is produced (especially deadly dioxins) is OFF THE SCALE.
While LiO (and especially LFP) techs have their place, putting them in movable things (cars, scooters, etc) is sheer LUNACY