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I have been debating and researching many posts about DIY projects for a RV and my debate is over building my own LIfepo4 batteries 300AH each X 2 or look at new premade units. Most posts about DIY are over 2 years old or more. So I'm curious if anyone is or has made there own batteries and what you've used and how they're working. Thank you for all or any input!
 
I have been debating and researching many posts about DIY projects for a RV and my debate is over building my own LIfepo4 batteries 300AH each X 2 or look at new premade units. Most posts about DIY are over 2 years old or more. So I'm curious if anyone is or has made there own batteries and what you've used and how they're working. Thank you for all or any input!
the price of cells has dropped significantly in the last 6 months, I would say its a good time to build your own. I used eve 304ah cells from 18650 battery store, when I bought my cells in the fall they were 145 each now they are down to 109 each. so 500ish including you BMS you get a 300AH battery, I don't know of any premade 300Ah that is even close in price to that. Mine are working good so far, just put them into the camper last week and moved the 280AH one out of there into the 5th wheel with the other 2. for a BMS I bought a JBD 150AH one a long time ago and it seams to be working good now. if I didn't already have that I probably would have went with a JK with the higher active balancing.
 
the price of cells has dropped significantly in the last 6 months, I would say its a good time to build your own. I used eve 304ah cells from 18650 battery store, when I bought my cells in the fall they were 145 each now they are down to 109 each. so 500ish including you BMS you get a 300AH battery, I don't know of any premade 300Ah that is even close in price to that. Mine are working good so far, just put them into the camper last week and moved the 280AH one out of there into the 5th wheel with the other 2. for a BMS I bought a JBD 150AH one a long time ago and it seams to be working good now. if I didn't already have that I probably would have went with a JK with the higher active balancing.

280ah lfp battery $539 with 250a BMS with a warranty. Personally id spring a few hundred more on better rep company like Sok, their 5kwh batteries are only $1100
 
280ah lfp battery $539 with 250a BMS with a warranty. Personally id spring a few hundred more on better rep company like Sok, their 5kwh batteries are only $1100
its nice to see they are coming down finally, in the US at least. up here its still crazy expensive for a 300AH. but ya you picked a pretty cheep one with my example I was using high quality parts, more capacity, and the weight is less and the size is quite a bit smaller on the DIY, probably due to them using a bunch of 100 or 150ah cells instead of just 4..
 
its nice to see they are coming down finally, in the US at least. up here its still crazy expensive for a 300AH. but ya you picked a pretty cheep one with my example I was using high quality parts, more capacity, and the weight is less and the size is quite a bit smaller on the DIY, probably due to them using a bunch of 100 or 150ah cells instead of just 4..
Yeah I went with sok 48v rack batteries 100ah. Like $1500 each, they have the cheaper ones for $1099 too. I think if I DIY I'd might save $200-300 each depending on how I'd make the case but it's well worth that to have a warranty and guarantee. Also the time cost to build a battery is a big factor.

I'm not really sure how weight is less and size is smaller for DIY. It's all the same stuff just put in cases but I guess if they use smaller cells.

Cells are dropping in price but battery manufacturers are always going to be 1-2 years behind on price dropping of raw materials.
 
The bigger you build the more advantageous it is to DYI. I built a 15kw 280ah 48v battery, all in with BMS and case for $3k about 2 years ago. I could could build it now for around $2400 because cell prices have dropped a lot.

Two 300ah 12v? Buy them.
 
The bigger you build the more advantageous it is to DYI. I built a 15kw 280ah 48v battery, all in with BMS and case for $3k about 2 years ago. I could could build it now for around $2400 because cell prices have dropped a lot.

Two 300ah 12v? Buy them.
What kind of case? This was my biggest worry when considering DIY. The Sok 100ah cheap batteries are $1100 vs $800 if diy it seems. I've been considering building a 20kwh battery and even possibly swapping out my eg4 and sok BMS with something else.
 
so 500ish including you BMS you get a 300AH battery
I have about ~5kWh of 12V ‘cheapo’ manufactured battery bank with two 140Ah and one 200Ah at a cost of $900-$1000-ish total. Can’t remember exactly.
So per this^^^ post diy is attractive and scale’s more attractively from there at those prices.
Sok 100ah cheap batteries are $1100 vs $800 if diy it seems
Unclear based on the other posted numbers.
SOK could be a better battery fwiw because of reputation, but dollars is dollars and diy lets you customize the footprint aka form factor.
 
Diy vs prebuilt has been debated for quite a while. Diy is still very much alive and well. There are benefits to both sides.

I like the opportunity to pick and choose my components. This includes battery builds.
 
I have been debating and researching many posts about DIY projects for a RV and my debate is over building my own LIfepo4 batteries 300AH each X 2 or look at new premade units. Most posts about DIY are over 2 years old or more. So I'm curious if anyone is or has made there own batteries and what you've used and how they're working. Thank you for all or any input!
Unless you're an avid DIY type, I'd suggest purchasing off-the-shelf. There's a bit of a learning curve with a DIY build. You may get a tad more bang for the buck with a DIY build, but it's nothing like it used to be. Off-the-shelf prices are very competitive these days.

That being said, after building a few lifepo4 battery packs over the last few years, I can't imagine ever buying an off-the-shelf unit. The ability to program the BMS any way we see fit, plus the option to install thermostat/BMS controlled heating pads, cooling fans, and active balancers adds a lot of functionality to our builds. However, gotta say we didn't achieve this functionality overnight. It took a bit of experimenting and testing to get there.

Again, unless you're an avid DIY'r, off the shelf may be a better choice.
 
I decided ... off the shelf pre-built Amazon cheapo's
Not planning on stressing them with a inverter etc....

got mine by watching amazon prices go up-down
jumped....... when price was 189.00 each............ 100ah with bluetooth + Free shipping
the next week the price went up to 210.00

Figured if they broke and at that price
will probably be a BMS failure ..... which I could open the case and replace the BMS
 
I appreciate all the replies and am leaning towards DIY cause I can choose my own components. Does anybody have a recommendation of a good bms. Thoughts are using 304A EVE cells and battery case I found on amazon. Choosing the right BMS is where I'm struggling. My plans are to hook them (making two batteries and hooking up in parallel) connected to a Victron 3K watt inverter 2X120. Thoughts?
 
Yeah I went with sok 48v rack batteries 100ah. Like $1500 each, they have the cheaper ones for $1099 too. I think if I DIY I'd might save $200-300 each depending on how I'd make the case but it's well worth that to have a warranty and guarantee. Also the time cost to build a battery is a big factor.

I'm not really sure how weight is less and size is smaller for DIY. It's all the same stuff just put in cases but I guess if they use smaller cells.

Cells are dropping in price but battery manufacturers are always going to be 1-2 years behind on price dropping of raw materials.
when I bought my 304AH cells a 300AH premade was still 2400Cdn I got all my stuff I need to build the battery for about 8-900 cdn.. so at that time it was a huge savings.. I was just looking the cheep 300ah batteries up here are 1250.00cdn still so there has been a big drop, but at the same time if I bought my sells today it would be about 6-700 to build my battery so still quite a bit of savings in building your own.
 
I appreciate all the replies and am leaning towards DIY cause I can choose my own components. Does anybody have a recommendation of a good bms. Thoughts are using 304A EVE cells and battery case I found on amazon. Choosing the right BMS is where I'm struggling. My plans are to hook them (making two batteries and hooking up in parallel) connected to a Victron 3K watt inverter 2X120. Thoughts?
That is basically what I have in my work truck, twin EVE 280ah batteries with a victron 12/3000/120, I have a 1/0 DLO positive and negative cable from the alternator supplying a 50amp Redarc DC/DC charger that I am increasing the charging with additional chargers to at least 150-200amps.


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