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Midnite Solar Announced their new 10kw AIO at Intersolar Today

I think $5k for a capable 10kW AIO is not bad at all.

$5k is a 5kW Sunny Island (not counting the liquidations I've enjoyed), and its performance is the benchmark. Match the performance, at 2x the wattage, with MPPT included, for same price, and you've got a real winner.

An off-brand Chinese product for 1/3 the price of a name brand product made in China means nothing at all, unless it approaches the quality and performance.

I never bought a GoPro for $250. I did buy a Chinese dash cam for $25. Worked at first, later just recorded noise instead of image.

What is the track record of these other brand AIO?

I don't know yet what quality difference comes with a Midnight branded Chinese made inverter. Has the DIY line differentiated itself (the way SolArk has)?
“Track record”is a good point Hedges while there has been many lower and higher end product with good price ,longevity and performance I know some has had many disasters.But it’s the one thing I think a lot of Chinese AIO has not perfected besides software/firmware.
 
Easy to throw stones when you're a retailer. Especially when you don't carry stuff of the companies your throwing shade to. Is it because of their warranty, or because your margin isn't high enough on them...
Where’s the lie in his post? He has carried at least a half dozen Chinese relabels (probably 3 or more even right now) Victron, Midnite, and others.
Not including the various equipment he’s had access to over time

In my experience with Dexter, it’s quite obvious he doesn’t prioritize margins over all else.
I’m sure he doesn’t enjoy spending hours helping customers troubleshoot crap equipment either
 
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For the ardent brand loyalists, they will pay that, but that will be a small market given the advent of sub $3000 options out there now.

Mike C.
If that price is confirmed then they've seen it will be competing with the eg4 12k and solark 15.

Difference seems to be the Midnite will support surge on a single 120V leg where the eg4 and solarks shutdown.
 
If that price is confirmed then they've seen it will be competing with the eg4 12k and solark 15.

Difference seems to be the Midnite will support surge on a single 120V leg where the eg4 and solarks shutdown.
And having Midnite behind it goes a long way too!

Another plus will be that the included CT sensors will be able to measure at least what the passthrough rating is.... I haven't heard any bigger promises, but that is more that what the Sol-Ark 15K does.... (15K Sol-Ark with 200A transfer relay only measures ~100-110A from my experience... and that is with any of their CTs, including the 600A ones!)

But c'mon guys.... I'm talking to Midnite, Sol-Ark, Eg4.... whoever out there with an AIO that has CT sensors and a "limited to home" style function.... when you have a 200A or 400A service you need more than 100A of capability with the CTs! If you plan to do self consumption using CTs, your CTs can't max out at a value lower than your electric service!

End of rant... 😆

I'm gonna say Midnite being behind this one will end up with it being a really great unit!
 
$6200 is not an official retail price. Official retail price should be announced within the next week or so.
Patiently waiting!!! The dependability of the midnite products will keep me in thier court for future installs. Also, waiting to see more reviews on capabilities from first hand experience of the people testing "The ONE".
 

Patiently waiting!!! The dependability of the midnite products will keep me in thier court for future installs. Also, waiting to see more reviews on capabilities from first hand experience of the people testing "The ONE".
Yes , haven't heard from the tester except High Tech Lab
 
For the ardent brand loyalists, they will pay that, but that will be a small market given the advent of sub $3000 options out there now.

Mike C.
That $6200 price is about $1k more than the one other place which is taking pre-orders for it (TheSolarBiz). Still will be interesting to see what the official pricing is when Midnite finally releases it.
 
Why not just put in 200A relays even if it's only 10kw inverting; makes it a simple easy whole house install with no sub panel needed. I was expecting to see this about $4500-4800 to compete.
 
You could, and SMA and Schneider have done that with external 200A relay.
But you need to automatically shed excess loads when dropping grid and going to inverter, otherwise it will collapse.

Keeping excessive loads on main panel and only wiring some to sub panel can make sense.
On a single panel, ought to have contactors for the big loads. (or switch their thermostat.)
 
Why not just put in 200A relays even if it's only 10kw inverting; makes it a simple easy whole house install with no sub panel needed. I was expecting to see this about $4500-4800 to compete.
Because a 200A service really should have two inverters. And with 100a internals you are running 2awg to each inverter vs 2/0 if you are using inverters with 200a switching equipment/breakers.
 
Because a 200A service really should have two inverters.
If you have a house which might draw substantially over 10 KW at any given moment, then asking a 10 KW inverter to handle that means grid failure is followed by inverter shutdown when your house loads go over 10 KW. You have no backup, essentially.

The better design is dividing house loads into those you can do without during a grid down situation and then having the inverter handle the manageable rest. If you do that, then you don't need a 200 amp current path through the inverter.

If you parallel the inverter, then each is carrying half the current and they don't need a 200 amp path.

I've been confused why these 10-12 KW inverters have a 48 KW path through them.

Mike C.
 
If you have a house which might draw substantially over 10 KW at any given moment, then asking a 10 KW inverter to handle that means grid failure is followed by inverter shutdown when your house loads go over 10 KW. You have no backup, essentially.

The better design is dividing house loads into those you can do without during a grid down situation and then having the inverter handle the manageable rest. If you do that, then you don't need a 200 amp current path through the inverter.

If you parallel the inverter, then each is carrying half the current and they don't need a 200 amp path.

I've been confused why these 10-12 KW inverters have a 48 KW path through them.

Mike C.
I'm talking about pass though to the grid what the inverter can't invert, so in your scenario if you were requesting 20kw ..10kw would be offset by passing it through the relays to the grid. I think it's called grid assist or something like that. I know Schneider, outback and solark can do this can this inverter do grid assist, I'd assume so since it does have the relays. Solark, at least the 15K, does have 200A relays which makes it a simple install if you don't want to start rewiring and splitting panels.
 
I've been confused why these 10-12 KW inverters have a 48 KW path through them.

Mike C.
These are hybrid inverters and will export to grid if desired. The grid then can be used for powering heavy loads with grid assist function.

Battery bank can be smaller, there is no need to overbuild the inverter where idle draw would be much higher, high starting surge loads can be easily powered up then run off PV power plus a few other reasons are why these inverters utilize grid assist and have the 48Kw path.
 
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