Who is actually manufacturing this inverter?
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It is generally accepted that Sol-Ark is a reseller of Deye inverters with a few modifications and a 3fold price increase. Any claims to the contrary would need to be backed up by atleast a joint press statement by Deye/Sol-Ark explaining how Sol-Ark developed the Hybrid inverters from scratch and how Deye then became the manufacturer of these.
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u/1201, I would like to see more solar advocates in politics, so I will take that as a compliment and in turn, compliment you for your positive outlook. But Sol-Ark has over 100 employees and we are focused on making inverters and associated products. Not sure on the actual employee count.
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I mean, if you think Apple is a reseller and not a manufacturer, sure. But that paints a pretty broad spectrum of the term "reseller".
Also, I'm not saying Sol-Ark made the inverter from scratch. Hybrid inverters existing before Sol-Ark. Sol-Ark was founded to make hybrid inverters easy to install and powerful enough to run a whole home. It succeeded so well that now "hybrid inverters" are a recognized market segment of inverters and the competitors are co-opting the Sol-Ark design into their product lines. Deny the world in front of your eyes if you want.
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I don't understand why these questions always end up down this road. If you don't want a Sol-Ark, don't get one.
Had I not purchased mine a month before the 18Kpv came out, I may have gone a different direction. But, I did get a Sol-Ark 15K, and have no regrets. By the way, is Sol-Ark going to toss any of us a bone that bought right before they dropped prices? ?
Had I not purchased mine a month before the 18Kpv came out, I may have gone a different direction. But, I did get a Sol-Ark 15K, and have no regrets. By the way, is Sol-Ark going to toss any of us a bone that bought right before they dropped prices? ?
Like I said, issue a joint statement with Deye saying that Sol-Ark designed their line of Hybrid inverters (that's what you seemed to be claiming in your post above) from the ground up and is the primary contributor to development of them, and I'll believe you.
It will probably do wonders for your marketing.
Or otherwise don't go spreading lies on this forum.
Everyone knows what the deal is.
I would like to see the kind of advocates that do not crush competition, that's for sure
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China doesn't have the same copyright/patent laws as the US. Typically some company designs a component and a bunch of factories make the parts and then companies like sol-ark and such have them built with their name and programming on it.
Vevor is a great example. Look up any item made by vevor then go on alibaba and look for the same thing
Vevor is a great example. Look up any item made by vevor then go on alibaba and look for the same thing
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Dude how can you not know how many employees are at your company? Surely you have a company directory, teams channel, something so you can reach out to other employees about various items...
My bet is you have over 100 employees but it's 1028276 companies combined
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It's interesting that you picked Vevor. I just bought a couple electrical enclosures to use for my battery builds. I first found the Vevor version I wanted, then found the same exact thing in a knock off. Way cheaper, so I bought them. I know the Vevor brand, we have them at work. What I received is exactly the same, except it's not. Quality of the welds/grinding isn't the same. Dimensions aren't quite right. Door alignment is a little off. So, one of two things. Either Vevor holds the Chinese plants to a higher standard for the boxes that get their name on it, or China is making knockoffs in a different plant. Either way, they aren't the same thing.
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Yes QC is a huge factor with Chinese manufacturing. Typically it's the responsibility of thr buyer to inspect and reject products which then those rejected items are resold to companies that doesn't have someone in China inspecting so they're sold as is and are delivered to US 8 weeks later and the buyer has to deal with it.
Anyone can buy a ton of stuff off alibaba, contact a freight forwarder in China to fill a container full of junk then have it sent to Amazon with their logo on them and sold as their own "company". Typically these companies have never seen the product or care. They just care that they're making profit and not returns which are just trashed.
Vevor and other large Chinese companies do the same thing they just have more resources and a relationship with the factories.
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My point is, you said "then go on alibaba and get the same thing". It's not the same thing.
Problem is vevor also manufactures a whole of bunch of Junk. They might have relatively good production and QC in one area, but relatively terrible QC in others
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I think our definition of same thing is different. Tvs or monitors are a better example. Iirc there's only 2 manufacturers of screens. Everyone just buys the screens, gets a custom case, adds their software to it and resells it.
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Exactly. It's because they don't manufacture anything they just slap their sticker on it.
Interesting, good to know
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What if I told you Sol-Ark CEO has already issued a statement, on the DIY forum, over 2 years ago? Do your research.
DEYE Inverter UL Listed available in US
Sol ark does monitor this form and going after anyone selling Deye in North America . I would put my money on that sol ark is not made in America.
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Your example doesn't make any sense but there is no need for hyperbolic cynicism. Actual employee count is confidential but it is publicly verifiable that Sol-Ark moved out of a 100 person office into a 500 person campus. That squarely puts Sol-Ark above 100 persons in the HQ (not counting fortunate remote workers like me. We offer onsite training, come see for yourself.
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What's the address of the new office?What if I told you Sol-Ark CEO has already issued a statement, on the DIY forum, over 2 years ago? Do your research.
DEYE Inverter UL Listed available in US
Sol ark does monitor this form and going after anyone selling Deye in North America . I would put my money on that sol ark is not made in America.
Your example doesn't make any sense but there is no need for hyperbolic cynicism. Actual employee count is confidential but it is publicly verifiable that Sol-Ark moved out of a 100 person office into a 500 person campus. That squarely puts Sol-Ark above 100 persons in the HQ (not counting fortunate remote workers like me. We offer onsite training, come see for yourself.
Quick Google shows this one but go figure no sign on front door or anything.
1100 Professional Dr, Plano, TX 75074
I'm not saying you're wrong just making assumptions based on countless other "companies" that inflate their size and presence
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LOL, Google not updating street view fast enough for you?
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It shows rosenburger and endurenergy with the same address. Sol-ark as permanently closed.
I doubt its Google Street view not updated enough but they've never had a sign because it's a multi company address.
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