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Can Solar & Wind Fix Everything (e.g., Climate Change) with a battery break-through?

Ummmm it was the EPA who released this wave of water into the Animas. The mine was abandoned in the 1920s .. all those guys are dead and gone.... cant squeeze blood from a dead turnip.
The flippin government causes all sorts of problems here. It was the US government that started the fire that burnt neighborhoods down to the ground in Los Alamos in 2000... and several times after this in other places around here. Morons they are... wait till its spring with 2% humidity and forcast winds of 30 to 50mph and then say light her up boys!
It was the gov that took mine tailings from the Tuerto mine and spread them on the road next to the Pecos river and when spring runoff came it washed heavy metals into the river and then say Dont eat the fish.. theyre full of heavy metals..! Duh!
The very ones YOU expect to help are the ones making the problem exponentially worse.
We dont have a climate change problem.. we have a common sense problem.
My rant


See above.
Gold mining in the hills around Gold King was the primary income and economy for the region until 1991, when the last mine closed near Silverton. The Gold King Mine was abandoned in 1923. Prior to the spill, the Upper Animas water basin had already become devoid of fish, because of the adverse environmental impacts of regional mines such as Gold King, when contaminants entered the water system. Other plant and animal species were also adversely affected in the watershed before the Gold King Mine breach.

In the 1990s, sections of the Animas had been nominated by the EPA as a Superfund site for clean-up of pollutants from the Gold King Mine and other mining operations along the river. Lack of community support prevented its listing. Under the law, the EPA had authority to do only minor work to abate environmental impacts of the mine. Locals had feared that classifying this as a Superfund site would reduce tourism in the area, which was the largest remaining source of income for the region since the closure of the metal mines.

At the time of the accident, the EPA was working with a private contractor at the Gold King Mine to stem the leaking mine water going into Cement Creek. Water was accumulating behind a plug at the mine's entrance. They planned to add pipes that would allow the slow release and treatment of that water before it backed up enough to blow out. Unknown to the crew, the mine tunnel behind the plug was already full of pressurized water. It burst through the plug soon after excavation began.

Not that any of that matters, the mines were abandoned by the owners and the government should not have been left to clean up their mess, right?
 
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IMO there is a reason this topic has close to 300 pages, it may be because unlike most
big issues we face "we the people" can play a part in this one, even the most hardiest
sceptic has a roll to play, I would be surprised if you looked on any other forum and
found a basement/chit chat zone with a 300 page Climate Change topic.

each watt of solar we point at the sky is watts the big power supplier's don't need to
generate when enough of us in the world stop sucking on our mother's tits(grid) we
could at least remove coal as fuel option(that would be a big step in the right direction).

when I was a kid each family on our block had a coal bin in the basement, they are all
gone here in the usa now, step in the right direction.

 
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IMO there is a reason this topic has close to 300 pages, it may be because unlike most
big issues we face "we the people" can play a part in this one, even the most hardiest
sceptic has a roll to play, I would be surprised if you looked on any other forum and
found a basement/chit chat zone with a 300 page Climate Change topic.

each watt of solar we point at the sky is watts the big power supplier's don't need to
generate when enough of us in the world stop sucking on our mother's tits(grid) we
could at least remove coal as fuel option(that would be a big step in the right direction).

when I was a kid each family on our block had a coal bin in the basement, they are all
gone here in the usa now, step in the right direction.

At the 14:00 mark he starts laying it out. At mark 20:00 he says the truth. Svetz type will have a problem with that video.
 
D71, the video points out the challenges we face, some may see them as roadblocks or
even deal-breakers I see them as opportunities for our young.Capture491.PNG
 
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It is not evil for the left to want a clean environment

Here in lies the problem and the hypocricy.

Where are the "greens" attacking all of the REAL problems? Like actual problems that are ruining the planet?

Geoengineering, Chemical Pollution (Especially associated with the whole "EV" push and anything battery), Gain Of Function Research (Which is only needed if you are creating bioweapons), Genetic Engineering that is ruining our natural biome?

All of the usual pundits are completely silent on this, but they are stuck up on "caboon" because they have been brainwashed by those in real power.

All you need to know. The entire "green movement" does not care about the planet. Not even a little.

And then they tell you China is in the lead? This is laughable. China's number one source of electricity is COAL! COAL! (And China is tripling down on it) The idiots claiming china is leading in "cleaning up the Earth" need to have their heads examined! China is one of the most polluted places in the world. No wonder there is a joke about China growing plastic tomatoes next, LOL.

Stop gaslighting already, the lies spewed by the "left" and "greens" are so outrageous, noone believes it anymore. Amazing how shameless they are in the lying!
 
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I laid out many reasons beyond the recognition of conspiracy.
You sure that was in this thread? I don't recollect any actual scientific proof. You did talk about how propane is fuel dense and you don't like the aesthetics of solar panels, but that's not any sort of proof that climate change is a hoax.

... It is also interesting that you didn't include the other failed narratives such as cool down, sea level rise...
What specifically do you want to know?

...Climate changes, nobody denies that...
Sure they do. There's a little of everything out there.

You are claiming that there is a need to make changes for the sake of that changing climate. The burden of proof is not on my position, but on yours.
That's silly. I've provided links to references to back up my thoughts as to why I believe it is real. You haven't provided any evidence to backup why you think it's fake. You've also said you only believe what you yourself can test/validate, yet you are very sure in your belief that it is a hoax without validation.
Their plight [child starvation] is not due to humans releasing CO2.
History shows us that even natural climate changes cause draught and famine. GHGs are increasing the global temperature, which does change climate.
...we have a common sense problem....
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[Have you ever seen a lithium mine?]
Powerful speaker... but ... I wanted to rebut the bit about lithium mining as it's a single side of the coin directed at lithium as if it is much worse than other types of mining:
So, where does lithium come from? It comes from the Earth, of course, but it doesn't require strip mining or blowing the tops off mountains like other resources do.... most often, lithium is found in briny underground ponds. The liquid is pumped out and left to dry in the sun. ref
The ponds shown in the video are where they're left to dry via sunshine, it's very different from a strip mine or other very destructive mining techniques. Similarly, he talks about the quantity of batteries over the years, but doesn't talk about the recycle capability meaning mining will go down over time. On the turbine blades, those are blades from decades ago and the new ones are designed to be recyclable. Even the old ones can be recycled, but it's cheaper to throw them into a landfill unfortunately. It's not a perfect world, but we can keep chipping away the problems. But don't worry, pretty sure we'll create new ones.

I definitely liked the quote that faith removes doubts and science requires doubt. Is it ironic that doubters of science are the ones that have the most faith their beliefs are correct.

 
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IMO there is a reason this topic has close to 300 pages, it may be because unlike most
big issues we face "we the people" can play a part in this one, even the most hardiest
sceptic has a roll to play, I would be surprised if you looked on any other forum and
found a basement/chit chat zone with a 300 page Climate Change topic.

each watt of solar we point at the sky is watts the big power supplier's don't need to
generate when enough of us in the world stop sucking on our mother's tits(grid) we
could at least remove coal as fuel option(that would be a big step in the right direction).

when I was a kid each family on our block had a coal bin in the basement, they are all
gone here in the usa now, step in the right direction.

D71, the video points out the challenges we face, some may see them as roadblocks or
even deal-breakers I see them as opportunities for our young.



One of the biggest post on here in record time.

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Best of the best
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Reduced Charred mess above it. Imagine trying to go to a new planet and tame it. Mars … everyone knows Mars is not livable from science and neither is the moon… look at temperature extremes of moon. Joke We can’t tame this planet much less a new place which is more uninviting.

. We are however over populating here at a record rate. Well not the USA and Western World but rest of broke ass ppl with nothing else to do are humping. Give them internet access porn guess what? Even More humping. Give them food and they double their population and double down on population 2x production last 30 years. Hmmmmmm not working out for home team now we are being invaded. Taken over. So in the end we helped to rush our own demise. Right now if ppl look we are no longer Modern Romans ruling. Just like ancient rome we have been taken over and are ourselves in free fall. We tried to raise the Rest of World up but it wasn’t doable. Instead we lowered ourselves.

When you breed retards with smart ppl you end up with lower over all. Then it ends in like movie “idiocracy.” Notice the woman on youtube for a commercial that talks about stuck poop?

Best plans of mice and men. There are natural orders for a reason It is Nature defining. Your video talks about mud huts in Africa getting a light. It will still be mud huts. It is how they have most always lived by nature. 19th century.

Build yourself a mud hut and move in. Get a sex partner and just hump. Don’t worry about shit…. Except stepping in it.

Detroit was fed upon by the democrats and life blood sucked out of it with exploding crime and poverty left.

How it really looks
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How they project it after the decline from decent wealth to poverty.
They should have tried clean up the waters with cgi. Photoshopped it more. Notice the sun shining? 🤡

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330,000.000 ppl can not sustain with the methods we have bbeen pushed into. Who pushed us into this? They are still lying and stealing more every day. Build a mud hut and screw all day. They will eventually leave you alone to live or die . No matter what they will be in charge…of. 8 billion ppl.
 

Future Sodium Ion Batteries Could Be Ten Times Cheaper for Energy Storage

The first generation sodium ion are a bit cheaper than LFP but the volumes will not be worldchanging. However, the second generation sodium ion could reach $40 per kWh. Iron LFP batteries could get to $50/kWh with really high volume and efficiency at the cell level.

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Opinion: It's not "too much", not until they have enough storage so they can eventually be 100% 24x7. Plus it's around equinox with good weather.
 
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:oops: I never seen them dots connected before.

I hope that line is gaslighting

What you dont know about gain of function research?
Educate yourself







 

Your Tax Dollars At Work: In Two Years, $7.5 Billion Has Produced Just 7 EV Charging Stations​


When people gripe about paying taxes and the government being a poor the absolute worst possible capital allocation, this is what they are talking about: $7.5 billion in investments for electric vehicles has - in two years - produced just 7 charging stations across four states.

The Bipartisan Infrastructure Law, signed by Biden in November 2021, allocated $7.5 billion for EV charging, the Washington Post writes. Of this amount, $5 billion went to states as "formula funding" for the National Electric Vehicle Infrastructure program to establish a network of fast chargers along major highways.

Today, there's seven chargers with a total of just 38 parking spots. And, come on: when the Post is calling it out, you know the results have been horrible.


The Post added that with the Biden administration's new emissions rules requiring more electric and hybrid vehicles, the slow pace of charging infrastructure development could hinder the transition to electric cars. Twelve additional states have awarded contracts for charging station construction, while 17 states have yet to issue proposals.

Alexander Laska, deputy director for transportation and innovation at the center-left think tank Third Way, told The Post: “I think a lot of people who are watching this are getting concerned about the timeline.”



The slow rollout of new EV chargers is partly due to higher standards compared to previous fast chargers. The U.S. has nearly 10,000 fast charging stations, including over 2,000 reliable Tesla Superchargers, but non-Tesla chargers often suffer from poor performance.

New Biden administration rules require chargers to be 97% operational, offer 150kW power, and be within one mile of highways. These standards are crucial but slow down progress due to complex rules, permitting challenges, and power demands. The NEVI program aims to boost fast charging capacity by 50% to reduce "range anxiety," but states must first build the chargers.

Cathy McMorris Rodgers (R-Wash.), Jeff Duncan (R-S.C.) and Morgan Griffith (R-Va.) wrote to the Biden Administration last month: “We have significant concerns that under your efforts American taxpayer dollars are being woefully mismanaged.”

“State transportation agencies are the recipients of the money. Nearly all of them had no experience deploying electric vehicle charging stations before this law was enacted,”
Nick Nigro, founder of Atlas Public Policy added.

The Federal Highway Administration responded: “We are building a national EV charging network from scratch, and we want to get it right. After developing program guidance and partnering with states to guide implementation plans, we are hitting our stride as states move quickly to bring NEVI stations online.”
 
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You sure that was in this thread? I don't recollect any actual scientific proof. You did talk about how propane is fuel dense and you don't like the aesthetics of solar panels, but that's not any sort of proof that climate change is a hoax.
What specifically do you want to know?


Sure they do. There's a little of everything out there.


That's silly. I've provided links to references to back up my thoughts as to why I believe it is real. You haven't provided any evidence to backup why you think it's fake. You've also said you only believe what you yourself can test/validate, yet you are very sure in your belief that it is a hoax without validation.

History shows us that even natural climate changes cause draught and famine. GHGs are increasing the global temperature, which does change climate.

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Powerful speaker... but ... I wanted to rebut the bit about lithium mining as it's a single side of the coin directed at lithium as if it is much worse than other types of mining:

The ponds shown in the video are where they're left to dry via sunshine, it's very different from a strip mine or other very destructive mining techniques. Similarly, he talks about the quantity of batteries over the years, but doesn't talk about the recycle capability meaning mining will go down over time. On the turbine blades, those are blades from decades ago and the new ones are designed to be recyclable. Even the old ones can be recycled, but it's cheaper to throw them into a landfill unfortunately. It's not a perfect world, but we can keep chipping away the problems. But don't worry, pretty sure we'll create new ones.

I definitely liked the quote that faith removes doubts and science requires doubt. Is it ironic that doubters of science are the ones that have the most faith their beliefs are correct.

 
If we want to reduce CO2 ..... we better stop ignoring the elephant in the room.



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There are natural orders for a reason It is Nature defining.
D71, I got to believe Darwin's idea of natural selection did not include brain size
his was strongest(biggest club for humans) but, humans have been circumventing
nature for a long long time, humans have even found a way to destroy nature on a whim
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and it's also true we have circumvented natural selection by strength by giving everyone the
power of our federal government, nature never envisioned public schools or even the local police.

not sure 100000yr old information is much use today, if your talking about sea turtles or jack rabbits maybe
but not humans.

but the video was entertaining, just not factual.

in the real world the smartest among us could come from the most dysfunctional family or be born with
a silver spoon(mud huts or gold toilets) .
 
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The H Stands For Hype​


The Sun is mainly made of hydrogen. But there is nothing new under the Sun, and that includes hydrogen.

That Old Testament reference — “what has been will be done again; there is nothing new under the sun” — is appropriate here because the hype about hydrogen seems nearly as old as the Bible itself.

On June 10, 1975, during the 94th Congress, the House of Representatives held the first of two “investigative hearings on the subject of hydrogen — its production, utilization, and potential effects on our energy economy of the future.” The hearing was chaired by Mike McCormack, a Democrat from Washington state, who claimed hydrogen “has the potential of playing the same kind of role in our energy system as electricity does today.

In 1996, the Chicago Sun-Times declared “The first steps toward what proponents call the hydrogen economy are being taken.” In 2003, Jeremy Rifkin, an “economic and social theorist,” published The Hydrogen Economy: The Creation of the Worldwide Energy Web and the Redistribution of Power on Earth. In that book,Rifkin claimed that “Globalization represents the end stage of the fossil-fuel era.” Turning “toward hydrogen is a promissory note for a safer world,” he averred.




President George W. Bush bought the hydrogen hype. In his 2003 State of the Union Address, he said, “With a new national commitment, our scientists and engineers will overcome obstacles” to taking hydrogen-fueled automobiles “from laboratory to showroom so that the first car driven by a child born today could be powered by hydrogen, and pollution-free.” A few months after that speech, his administration announced a collaborative effort with the European Union for the “development of a hydrogen economy,” including the technologies “needed for mass production of safe and affordable hydrogen-powered fuel cell vehicles.” The White House claimed in a 2003 press release that the effort would “improve America’s energy security by significantly reducing the need for imported oil.”

The history of the hype matters because we live in ahistorical times. Or, as author Jeff Minick explained in 2022, we are plagued by “presentism.” Presentism, Minick wrote, “is the reason so many young people can name the Kardashians but can’t tell you the importance of Abraham Lincoln or why we fought in World War II.”

Presentism helps explain why, on April 30, the New York Times published a piece headlined, “Hydrogen Offers Germany a Chance to Take a Lead in Green Energy,” which ignores the long history of hydrogen’s failure to live up to the forecasts. But blaming presentism can’t account for the vapidity of the article, which hinges on this nut graf:

The concept of hydrogen as a renewable energy source has been around for years, but only within the past decade has the idea of its potential to replace fossil fuels to power heavy industry taken off, leading to increased investment and advances in the technology. (Emphasis added.)
The idea of hydrogen may (or may not) be taking off, but hydrogen is not a “source” of energy, it’s an energy carrier. Calling hydrogen an energy “source” is like calling Stormy Daniels an “actress.”

Hydrogen is abundant in the universe. But it’s not a source of energy. Instead, like electricity and gasoline, it must be manufactured. The most common ways are by splitting water through electrolysis, or via steam-methane reforming, which uses high-pressure steam to produce hydrogen from methane.

There are other forehead-slapping statements in the Times article written by Stanley Reed and Melissa Eddy, who traveled to the German city of Duisburg to visit a factory that makes electrolyzers. “If adopted widely,” they wrote, “the devices could help clean up heavy industry such as steel-making, in Germany and elsewhere.” Well, yes, if “adopted widely.” But despite decades of frothy predictions from Rifkin and others, electrolyzers haven’t been adopted widely because making and using hydrogen on a large scale is — as my friend, Steve Brick, puts it — “a thermodynamic obscenity.”
 
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