Wow, basen rack.mounts batteries destroy a home in germany
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So you agree, it was a leaking natural gas (not LP higher SG) pipe with a pilot light/igniter ignition source.??
Daddy Tanuki
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i think it was, as a kid i grew up with a lpg gas house furnace, gas water heater, gas dryer, and combination stove/oven. as kids we got the training from my father who was an electrical foreman at the breed power plant.
safety was one of those things baked into his bones as OSHA was just starting to get some real teeth.
all our appliances got cleaned (burners) professionally every year and burners, orfices etc. changed when ever deemed necessary by the company doing the maintenance and cleaning.
we were made to watch while they did the dryer and stove as they were easy to access and the kids could watch and learn. the guys doing the work were thrilled to have an audience and went over ad nauseam what could (and sometimes did) happen with gas appliances. and how to see the warning signs. (trouble igniting, not reaching temps multiple ignition attempts etc.
back then people rarely paid attention until something bad happened... I would guess its even worse these days. like I said in an earlier post you can the the battery pack in the photo's no apparent burns just the casing knocked about by the concrete blocks crumbling. I would bet on a bad inlet valve leaking on the water heater or clogged orfices and or several false starts and just enough gas to go Stoichiometric and then a nice little attempt at relight and BOOM!
much more believable then all the force manufactured panic. it is something that has happened many times in the past and will continue to happen in the future, even to folks who have no solar power production system for the insurance company to blame it on to avoid paying out. does anybody actually trust an insurance company to do anything in your favor vice their's?
chrisgraham
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I'm curious to see what the cause is.
Yeah that's what I thought too. But everyone wants to jump on the batteries as the cause. Especially insurance so they can try to get out of paying a claim.To me the battery case looks very much undamaged
https://www.photovoltaikforum.com/thread/214845-explosion-eines-30-kilowattstunden-batteriespeichers-zerstört-wohnhaus-in-wernge/?postID=3444596#post3444596
hwy17
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They don't get out of it.
Sure they do. It happens daily
Its there 1# goal in life
Bluedog225
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Insurance companies will screw anyone.
And then even when they do lose, all they do is put the prices up! Its a no lose gamble.
Insurance is the biggest scam on earth. They are in business to make money not shell it out to the claimants. I have seen it from every point of view as a customer. From car accidents to having lost everything in a fire. And unless you can fight them and prove every penny you spent they will still try to screw you. Just like many will not cover anyone who has solar or because they live in a certain area or state. They want profits. As soon as you call with a claim they put money into an account that earns interest and they make money off the claim. Usually not much, but if a claim lasts for months they make more money dragging out the payment. They have more tricks than a high priced hooker ?
hwy17
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Find me a denied insurance claim on a house fire or explosion, it would be worthy of a small news story somewhere. They cover tool battery fires, e-bike fires, all that.
There are other claims like water claims they will fight, but fire claims are like the sacred hazard.
There are other claims like water claims they will fight, but fire claims are like the sacred hazard.
Bluedog225
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That’s simply not correct.
hwy17
Anti-Solar Enthusiast
The Fire That Destroyed Everything - Truck Camper Magazine
Mike Brandl woke up to a loud noise and bright yellow light. He thought a spaceship might be landing in his yard.
www.truckcampermagazine.com
Camper? Covered
Homeowners? Covered
Vehicle? Covered
York fire victim, 76, loses insurance payout over form error
Barry Tordoff was told his insurance was void after he 'did not tick a box', his family say.
www.bbc.co.uk
hwy17
Anti-Solar Enthusiast
That's a bit different than them trying to deny based on the cause. Finding out you didn't have insurance because it was cancelled or not paid is a separate and possible outcome even in the US. And when I have looked into it before it does seem the UK insurance environment has a lot more leeway for this kind of retroactive nullification. The rare stories I do find in the west are often in the UK.York fire victim, 76, loses insurance payout over form error
Barry Tordoff was told his insurance was void after he 'did not tick a box', his family say.www.bbc.co.uk
No no he was all paid up, it was cancelled after the fact because he failed to declare a previous claim
Haha doesn't surprise me, Britain has a LONG history of insurance brokers, we were very early in the modern insurance game. Property insurance was thought up after the great fire of London 1,666 , we were also the first to sell life insurance
Lloyds of London have been ripping off the masses for almost 3 times longer than America's been a proper unified country! ?
hwy17
Anti-Solar Enthusiast
Exactly. Always an interesting blend of more consumer protections and yet also less in the UK.
Like on consumer products, you guys theoretically have more legal protections, but everything gets a lot more fighty between the consumers and the retailers. I returned a pack of sausages and some used pans the other day just because I didn't like them, satisfaction guaranteed and whatnot, and they'll look at you like you're crazy if you try that over there.
Like on consumer products, you guys theoretically have more legal protections, but everything gets a lot more fighty between the consumers and the retailers. I returned a pack of sausages and some used pans the other day just because I didn't like them, satisfaction guaranteed and whatnot, and they'll look at you like you're crazy if you try that over there.
Absolutely right there . Very strange mix , we've got HUGE consumer rights over here and yet almost no way to enforce them , Trading standards are supposed to deal with it but they are under funded/over stretched , it would have to be serious before they'd way in.
You can take them to small claims , but the courts are prohibitively expensive , judgements often unenforceable and even if they are enforceable they have to be done by a high court bailiff to the tune of £5000+ (recoverable from other party if you're lucky) but you've got the have the money to stomp up in the first place ?
There's no real recourse for the poor man in Britain ... Don't forget, despite what they might tell us, we're not British 'citizens' , we are subjects of the Crown . And don't we all bloody well know it ...
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