New Growatt hybrid inverter SPH10000TL- HU-US split phase

MajicDiver said:

Self2Solar has them listed for preorder, website says arriving mid May. See link below.

Growatt SPH 10000TL-HU-US 10.0KW Hybrid Inverter | 15000W PV Input| 10000W Output | 230V, 120V/240V Split Phase | Compatible with Growatt AXE LV Battery and Lead-acid Battery

Growatt SPH 10000TL-HU-US 10KW hybrid inverter supports split phase 120/240Vac, three-phase 120/208Vac system. It has configurable battery charging current/voltage based and AC/Solar/Generator charger priority by touch screen setting. It is compatible with grid voltage or generator power. When...

www.self2solar.com

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Thanks for posting it. I had been looking on/off to see when they get listed various places.

I'm waiting to see what signature solar's price will be

Spec sheet:

Intro slide deck:

User manual:

Certs:

It looks pretty nice. The intro slide deck is moderately informative, not just all fluff.

It has me wondering if I should proceed with the Amensolar N3H-X10-US I have nominally selected, or wait for this to be available. Those two units seems like the leading choices in the sub $3K, 10 KW AC, IP 65, split phase inverter market.

Ah, the perfection of non existence...

Mike C.

mciholas said:

Spec sheet:

https://cdn.shopify.com/s/files/1/0740/6501/9155/files/SPH_10000TL-HU-US_Datasheet_EN_202307_956ae3b2-81a6-40b4-876b-88005392691d.pdf

Intro slide deck:

https://cdn.shopify.com/s/files/1/0740/6501/9155/files/202401-SPH-10000TL-HU-US_Introduction.pdf

User manual:

https://us.growatt.com/upload/file/SPH_10000TL-HU-US_User_Manual_EN_202403.pdf

Certs:

https://cdn.shopifycdn.net/s/files/1/0740/6501/9155/files/SPH_10000TL-HU-US_IEEE1547_UL1741_CSAC22.2_HECO_IEEE1741SB.pdf

It looks pretty nice. The intro slide deck is moderately informative, not just all fluff.

It has me wondering if I should proceed with the Amensolar N3H-X10-US I have nominally selected, or wait for this to be available. Those two units seems like the leading choices in the sub $3K, 10 KW AC, IP 65, split phase inverter market.

Ah, the perfection of non existence...

Mike C.

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Growatt can ac couple and can work based on either battery voltage or bms comms

On Alibaba with a few listings, a typical one:


$1528 plus $340 for shipping, $1868 total, delivery mid June.

There are small inconsistencies with the listing, like the part number lacking "US", and under "certificates", they don't list the US required ones. You would just like those niggly details to be right so you know what you are ordering.

Mike C.

mciholas said:

On Alibaba with a few listings, a typical one:

Growatt Sph 10000tl-hu Solar Pv Inverter 10kw On Off Grid Hybrid Inverter With 3 Mppt Charger Controller - Buy Solar Inverter With Mppt Solar Charger solar Inverter 10kw solar Inverter With Built-in Charge Controller Product on Alibaba.com

Growatt Sph 10000tl-hu Solar Pv Inverter 10kw On Off Grid Hybrid Inverter With 3 Mppt Charger Controller - Buy Solar Inverter With Mppt Solar Charger solar Inverter 10kw solar Inverter With Built-in Charge Controller Product on Alibaba.com

www.alibaba.com

$1528 plus $340 for shipping, $1868 total, delivery mid June.

There are small inconsistencies with the listing, like the part number lacking "US", and under "certificates", they don't list the US required ones. You would just like those niggly details to be right so you know what you are ordering.

Mike C.

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The hu us is split phase
The hu is for Europe and much cheaper. Don't order that one

1201 said:

The hu us is split phase
The hu is for Europe and much cheaper. Don't order that one

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Then, this one?


$1450 plus $82 for shipping.

Or this one?


$1528 plus $340 for shipping.

Both list the model as the "US" one.

None of the listings are exactly consistent, such as videos of the wrong inverter, certs not being US applicable, etc. Who knows what you would get.

Mike C.

Why not just wait until one of the US suppliers has the thing? I’m just not sure it’s worth taking the risk on alibaba

mciholas said:

Then, this one?

Sph 10000tl-hu-us Growatt 120/240vac Split Phase Inverter 230v Single Phase 10kw Hybrid Solar Us Inverter - Buy 10kw Hybrid Solar Us Inverter split Phase Inverter growatt Inverter Product on Alibaba.com

Sph 10000tl-hu-us Growatt 120/240vac Split Phase Inverter 230v Single Phase 10kw Hybrid Solar Us Inverter - Buy 10kw Hybrid Solar Us Inverter split Phase Inverter growatt Inverter Product on Alibaba.com

www.alibaba.com

$1450 plus $82 for shipping.

Or this one?

2024 New Version Growatt 10kw Sph-10000tl- Hu-us 120v 240v In Stock Split Phase Hybrid Solar Inverters - Buy Hybrid Solar Inverters 10kw Solar Inverter growatt Split Phase Inverters Product on Alibaba.com

2024 New Version Growatt 10kw Sph-10000tl- Hu-us 120v 240v In Stock Split Phase Hybrid Solar Inverters - Buy Hybrid Solar Inverters 10kw Solar Inverter growatt Split Phase Inverters Product on Alibaba.com

www.alibaba.com

$1528 plus $340 for shipping.

Both list the model as the "US" one.

None of the listings are exactly consistent, such as videos of the wrong inverter, certs not being US applicable, etc. Who knows what you would get.

Mike C.

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The same company also has it for sale for $768

Anyone know if Growatts are still Voltronic units or did they go with another designer/manufacturer?

koppted said:

Anyone know if Growatts are still Voltronic units or did they go with another designer/manufacturer?

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Where have you seen that growatt was voltronics based?

1201 said:

Where have you seen that growatt was voltronics based?

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I could have sworn they were both Voltronic units based on slightly different designs.
Here is one statement although unverified about that : Statement 1 , Statement 2 I' Here is one statement from @Steve_S " You are correct that GroWatt & MPP come from the same factory BUT GroWatt is a VAR and the OEM products are made to their specifications which comply with European & North American Standards and are certified for such. Generally, these have some improved componentry (higher quality) and few extras which are not included in the MPP." It's possible all this is hearsay of course. But I thought that was common knowledge.

koppted said:

I could have sworn they were both Voltronic units based on slightly different designs.
Here is one statement although unverified about that : Statement 1 , Statement 2 I' Here is one statement from @Steve_S " You are correct that GroWatt & MPP come from the same factory BUT GroWatt is a VAR and the OEM products are made to their specifications which comply with European & North American Standards and are certified for such. Generally, these have some improved componentry (higher quality) and few extras which are not included in the MPP." It's possible all this is hearsay of course. But I thought that was common knowledge.

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It seems to be all conjecture

1201 said:

It seems to be all conjecture

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Based on the very robust technical support I have received from full time Growatt employees, I am confident it is total conjecture- actually false. Sometimes I wonder how many posts on this forum are competitor imposters

I was INVOKED for a ? Pissing Contest ? Seriously ?
The FACT is that companies like Growatt are both OEM's & VARS do produce stuff in-house BUT they also subcontract a lot out to the Big Production houses like SRNE, Voltronic because in realty it is the most cost-efficient way to go. I'd wager that "some" of you have no clue about Growatt Commercial & what they are involved in...

Simply put, just run out and buy a "MADE IN USA" product and NOT a "Assembled in USA product" (using parts from who knows where) and be happy with that.

Honestly, an AIO is a Convenient Solution but that does not mean Optimal - it IS a set of compromises.

Steve_S said:

I was INVOKED for a ? Pissing Contest ? Seriously ?
The FACT is that companies like Growatt are both OEM's & VARS do produce stuff in-house BUT they also subcontract a lot out to the Big Production houses like SRNE, Voltronic because in realty it is the most cost-efficient way to go. I'd wager that "some" of you have no clue about Growatt Commercial & what they are involved in...

Simply put, just run out and buy a "MADE IN USA" product and NOT a "Assembled in USA product" (using parts from who knows where) and be happy with that.

Honestly, an AIO is a Convenient Solution but that does not mean Optimal - it IS a set of compromises.

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Not a pissing contest, just asked the question out of curiosity. I just make a thing now to avoid Voltronic inverters after the MPP LVX debacle.

Blaming an OEM who makes a device to a VAR's specs is not quite right, seriously.
Example, DeWalt & Black & Decker power tools are made in the Same Factory in China. Both tools are designed & engineered in Texas and the OEM who makes follows the design & spec as provided per contract. Now we all know that DeWalt tools are pretty good (built my home & everything else with them) but that the same Black & Decker tools today are CRAP ! (Not like the Good Ol Days)... so WHO do you blame for that ?

Midnite Solar "DIY" series & New AIO are also made in China to THEIR SPECS and they are using SNRE OEM I believe for the lot. I certainly would not hesitant buying Midnite Gear regardless where it's made. Qualifier: Only after 1 year is Real World Service (like any new product) so it's "debugged".

Simply put, if you buy a $500 Inverter, that's what you get, if you buy a $1500 Inverter you get quite another beast. (Of course being different brands.) IE: I can easily get a Yoyen 4000W Inverter for $800 USD, it's basic, simple, works not much bells & whistles, and "maybe" 85% efficient. But I use a Samlex EVO 4000W and it's 2K USD and is Tier-1 Feature & Function LOADED and 95% Efficient !

Steve_S said:

and they are using SNRE OEM I believe

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more conjecture?

1201 said:

more conjecture?

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Robyn & Halfcrazy ARE Midnite Solar - conjecture indeed. Get a Grip. Mr #### from Texass

Steve_S said:

Midnite Solar Announced their new 10kw AIO at Intersolar Today

Those specs look impressive and given that it's a Midnight design I have no doubt that the surge capacity will be just as good as they say.

diysolarforum.com

Robyn & Halfcrazy ARE Midnite Solar - conjecture indeed. Get a Grip. Mr #### from Texass

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And where did they say their new aio is made by srne?

That's how rumors spread and why people think growatt is made by voltronics.