New Tariffs in the States
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S Davis
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I believe if they have not gotten through customs at the port of entry before the tariffs then yes.
Steve_S
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REALLY ? That's news to me, and we have as much BDDY as TSLA and of course I keep an eagle eye on those shares & companies. Sorry to say but BYD has a good safety record with batteries and their Raod Safety Testing surpasses even European standards.
wpns
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As always, if you ask a question of the Internet, it will respond with yes and no and maybe.
First of all the hundred percent tariff is for electric vehicles, as far as we know batteries will not have 100% tariff.
Second of all while the announcement is due on Tuesday, we don’t know when the actual Tariff schedule will be implemented. It could be next week it could be next year, we will know more on Tuesday.
Third of all, if your batteries arrive and clear customs before the new tariff schedule goes into effect, then you will not pay the extra tariff.
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Guess I will have to wait and see but it could get very expensive.
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yep, $6800.00 order getting on the boat next week.
I had been worried about the ongoing issues and placed two orders; one shipped 5-8, and the other has yet to ship.
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SpongeboB Sinewave
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Maybe it is because they have more EVs than we do ?
I do know that BYD is certainly not 100% perfect in this respect.
Here is the video where I heard about the BYD Blade batteries. Maybe it is only these particular batteries that had trouble ?
And maybe they have fixed the problem ?
BTW, this guy and his friend lived and worked in China for about 10 years.
One of the comments said;
2 months ago
That's strange I was told blade batteries was one of the safest batteries made
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BYD Blade batteries are considered safe from what I’ve seen. Tesla uses them in their German made vehicles BYD nail test
I’m also confused by China EV tariffs. I’m not aware of any Chinese auto company selling EVs in the US currently.
BYD just said they have no plans BYD US statement
You REALLY need to vet your sources more carefully- I didn't even need to watch it to know immediately that was a video by a utuber named Sepentza- a notorious antiChina (and rabid anti EV) utuber with a long history of 'distorting the truth' aka lying... (he is a far rightwing supporter, born in South Africa, and has a VERY dubious past indeed)
Responsible for the 'ghost cities' nonsense, and also literally the starter of the 'fields of abandoned EVs left to rot' nonsense... (and the spread of the 'EVs catch fire' garbage against BYD- he seems to have a particular hatred of BYD for some reason)
BYD's blade batteries are indeed safe (and yes, Tesla does indeed use them in both the EU made Model 3, and also now the Chinese manufactured Model 3 as well)- BYD manufacture their own batteries, and have done since the first release of the E6, back in 2009... they manufacture more GWh of batteries per year than Tesla, and are one of the biggest manufacturers in the world...
They also outsell Tesla worldwide- and have been selling cars since 2009, and trucks and buses since 2012 (actual trucks- not US 'utes')- here in Australia BYD outsells Tesla (indeed my next car is going to be a Atto 3, later this year), NSW has been using their buses (nicknamed 'ElectricBlu) since 2016, and EV buses now make up almost a third of the inner city fleet in Sydney
2009 E6 was first released
2012, first BYD commercial vehicles went on sale
2016 Australia bought the first 6 BYD electric buses used in Australia (they bought another 40 in 2017, and by 2023, there were over 250 of them running around Sydney, with almost the entire diesel fleet being replaced by electric buses by 2028...)
In 2020, BYD released a shot of their 100th electric 'semi' sold in the US...
Like I said, I am looking at getting the Atto 3 later this year, a mid sized 'SUV', with a 450km range per charge (20% to 80% in under half an hour), has a 1200kg towing capacity, and is in Australia, $20000 cheaper for the LR version than the cheapest Tesla 3...
BYD do actually know what they are doing....
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Brucey
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The "Blade" prismatic cells are solid, but that's not the only type of cells BYD use. They are moving away from their pouch cells in their hybrids to "short blade" prismatics due to concerns about leakage.
From Jan:
"BYD unveiled in 2021 its self-developed hybrid technologies including a blade-shaped battery pack containing pouch cells which it said could achieve a higher charge and discharge efficiency specifically required by plug-in hybrid (PHEV) cars.
It uses such batteries in all of its PHEV models, which made up 48% of its total car sales of 3 million units in 2023 and are almost all sold in China. BYD does not source batteries externally, and the batteries it makes are mostly for its own use.
The automaker plans to replace the pouch batteries in its PHEVs with a type of prismatic battery known as "Short Blade", which is similar in structure to the Blade battery it uses in pure electric vehicles with stacked foils but is shorter in length, one of the sources said."
Steve_S
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There are a couple of Genuine FUDster's on Youtube Ohh Lorrdie the krud they spew forth. Some are pretty darn slick, well funded by externals to push such messages too.
BYD doesn't currently sell ANY hybrid in Australia, or indeed anywhere else but China AFAIK, although that is about to change this year with them bringing out the 'ute' to Australia
The BYD Shark, the first BYD ute, is supposed to be on sale in early 2025, there are at least one and maybe two already in Australia that have been spotted doing test driving in either BEV or hybrid form
https://www.drive.com.au/news/2025-byd-shark-first-official-images/
At least it looks better than that stupid Tesla lol
It isn't the first electric ute in Australia, with LDV already having theirs available. but the BYD is a far better contender (the LDV in pure EV configuration is both quite expensive, and has a limited 330km range...)
https://www.drive.com.au/news/2023-ldv-et60-price-and-specs/
Brucey
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Yes the article mentioned that I think 98% of their hybrids are sold domestically.
I think they'll watch the US based manufacturers fight it out into a race to the bottom price war before contemplating entering the market. No need to enter market now and become the punching bag for the domestics.
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The industry will just move products to other locations for shipping. BYD is already discussing building in Mexico to avoid US tariffs.
What happened to the good old US of A and free markets ….. Let companies fail if they can’t compete, it’s really that simple. I’m all for letting BYD sell cars in the US, if it puts Elon out of business tuff sh…t.
What happened to the good old US of A and free markets ….. Let companies fail if they can’t compete, it’s really that simple. I’m all for letting BYD sell cars in the US, if it puts Elon out of business tuff sh…t.
