Steve_S
Offgrid Cabineer, N.E. Ontario, Canada
Yup, your oar seems to stir the pile... consider that.Unfortunately politics insists on inserting itself in everything we do.
Political manure belongs elsewhere.
Yup, your oar seems to stir the pile... consider that.Unfortunately politics insists on inserting itself in everything we do.
Remember what Burns said about the best laid pans of mice and men.Awww…. Ever?
No grandpa for me…
I test drove a Prius and it made me angry. The handling was not bad, but the road noise was insane. I do not have kids/plan to/or expect to have any in my car ever. I was initially looking at hybrids but then I tried full EV.
I would think the same applies to Solar for most people if they have the grid available. Wrong forum?EV's aren't worth it. Stick with a gasser.
Our grid energy costs range between 33 c/kW and 61 c/kWh depending of time of day.I would think the same applies to Solar for most people if they have the grid available. Wrong forum?
Like I said for most people, and I was thinking USA. Solar cost more here and electricity is cheaper here, apart from California and maybe a few other states.Our grid energy costs range between 33 c/kW and 61 c/kWh depending of time of day.
Meanwhile our solar PV energy costs us ~ 5 c/kWh to generate. It's a complete no brainer to have solar PV where we are.
We mostly charge our EV from our grid-tied PV. When I do that the car's energy cost per km is ~20% that of our fuel efficient diesel VW Golf. With the newer lower grid feed-in rates we'll get this year the energy cost per km will drop even more. DC fast charging is expensive though.
That said our EV wasn't about saving money, it's because we were 100% reliant on foreign oil, while every kWh of grid energy, or our own solar PV, is generated here. We had an AdBlue supply crisis here not long back which nearly brought the diesel trucking industry to a standstill, and my other car at the time also used it. While AdBlue can be manufactured here, it was a sharp reminder of just how vulnerable our fuel supply is.
Convenience wise I just plug the car in at home and the charging system looks after all the optimised and automated charging for me.
The USA is not most people. But I accept this is a forum likely dominated by readers from the USA.Like I said for most people, and I was thinking USA.
I ran some numbers for charging EV through new solar + buffer battery (off the shelf, not DIY) at those rates (basically what we have in California effective Jan 2024), and breakeven was within 5-7 years for the off-peak $0.35/kWh rate.Our grid energy costs range between 33 c/kW and 61 c/kWh depending of time of day.
Just in the car, ... her car. Ejecta-puke only in grandpa's car, or the family ride. When friends start pairing and having children attitudes often change. I thought my daughter was never going to have kids, she was mid-30's, and is now 2 and done... I tell you kids born these days are just huge with all the improvements in pre-natal care. I'm not sure if it's that great for the mothers. We shall see. I can only say, you are never ready to have children, and I've never regretted having children.Awww…. Ever?
No grandpa for me…
Nah, All the EV's have LRR's. Maybe the ESS? I have the darn thing unplugged in my NiroEV. The Kona is much less obnoxious. The >2019 NiroEV ESS is notorious. The backup chime can be heard at 5AM throughout the neighborhood, it is louder than the stupid Sulfur Crested Cockatoo I had. I mean wake the dead at 5AM. The ESS makes noise ususally up to about 25MPH ish.I went back and asked my buddy with a prius about this.
This is just one source of info and I didn't double check his info, but his comment is that low rolling resistance tires like are on the prius are inherently noisy.
EV's are worth it if your application fits the use case, and you have a way to charge it without paying commercial charging rates. You need to keep the cost of charging in the $0.10-15/kwh range to generate the saving for the capital ROI. The maintenance is near nothing, you will chew up more tires. For general commuting they are really hard to beat.EV's aren't worth it. Stick with a gasser.
I think aggressive regen is silly. I keep my cars at '1'. If you really want to one-pedal drive, more power to you, I'm old and I can't stand it. If you are agressively slowing down all the time you are wasting electricity, which means to maximize efficiency one-pedal, you have to keep pressure on the pedal easing it up to slow down. Let go too fast and your passenger is getting a seat belt rash. 'Hitting the brakes' "normally" is the same as regen down to about 3MPH or something, but unlike a gas car you do want to kind of 'ride the brakes' to take advantage of regen. In any vehicle you would save maximal energy if you could coast to every stop, not practical obviously. Level 1 regen is kind of like riding the brakes a little, so you slow down faster. If you anticipate stops you can then gradually apply the brakes to a smooth stop, and not po the guy behind you for slowing down too fast, keeping the regen indicator nice and steady.Regarding range & efficiency. For my Ioniq5, there are so many regen and intelligent cruise control settings you can play with. Since watching three videos covering how the regen settings work (yes, training videos to learn how to drive? lol) I've gotten 30% more efficiency on short local drives.
Ignore the advertised range. So many environmental/behavioral factors dictate an EV's driving range. You will get better or worse depending on the outside temperature, inside temperature, wind, driving style, how many passengers, how much luggage, whether or not you're towing a boat, etc. What I believe one should pay attention to is the miles/kwh readout as this is a direct reflection of your battery capacity and how far you can go.
When asked how long my EV takes to charge I say "as long as you like" as again, there is no straight answer. It could be 20 minutes to 20hrs depending on battery percentage, battery temperature, charging rate, etc.