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[TommySr]

The ships recorder verified the anchor drop

How long are container ship anchor chains?

The length of chain provided varies between 86 M to 770 M depending on the size and dimensions of the ship.
the anchor then has to have something to grab onto, IMO not a very effective emergency braking system.

The general weight of an average-sized cargo ship is somewhere around 165,000 tons, while smaller vessels weigh about 50,000 tons and larger vessels approximately 220,000 tons.

dragging a 30,000 pounds anchor on a sand base would not impact it's speed (in the short term) IMO

 

[grizzzman]

How long are container ship anchor chains?

The length of chain provided varies between 86 M to 770 M depending on the size and dimensions of the ship.
the anchor then has to have something to grab onto, IMO not a very effective emergency braking system.

The general weight of an average-sized cargo ship is somewhere around 165,000 tons, while smaller vessels weigh about 50,000 tons and larger vessels approximately 220,000 tons.

dragging a 30,000 pounds anchor on a sand base would not impact it's speed (in the short term) IMO

What does this ship's plot tell you?

 

[TommySr]

What does this ship's plot tell you?

grizzzman, something went wrong at the circled area.

it's possible things were going wrong before that, and because of human error the ship
ended up in a bad place at the wrong time. should have never left port IMO hindsight is always 20/20

my main point is, you can't drop an anchor in a bay that's been dredged for over 100yrs and expect it
to stop you anytime soon.

 

[TommySr]

they had very limited gearing back then, but they did have rudder control without power
you'd think today you could build a gearbox that could manually control even a
rudder on a container ship.

maybe.

 

[grizzzman]

grizzzman, something went wrong at the circled area.

it's possible things were going wrong before that, and because of human error the ship
ended up in a bad place at the wrong time. should have never left port IMO hindsight is always 20/20

my main point is, you can't drop an anchor in a bay that's been dredged for over 100yrs and expect it
to stop you anytime soon.

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Ya think?

 

[42OhmsPA]

it's possible things were going wrong before that, and because of human error the ship
ended up in a bad place at the wrong time. should have never left port IMO hindsight is always 20/20

Do you think it's possible the control system of the ship was taken over by a malicious outside source via exploits in networked hardware leaving the crew helpless? Is it possible it wasn't human error, rather human intent?

 

[grizzzman]

Do you think it's possible the control system of the ship was taken over by a malicious outside source via exploits in networked hardware leaving the crew helpless? Is it possible it wasn't human error, rather human intent?

Perhaps but if it was an attack the vanity of terrorists in general demand that they take credit.... However if a evil organization was hellbent to destroy a country"s super power using "death by a thousand cuts" it is at least plausible.

 

[TommySr]

Is it possible it wasn't human error, rather human intent?

42OhmsPA, sure it could, and that would be far more entertaining to chat about.
kind of like reading a Tom Clancy novel.

 

[D71]

grizzzman, something went wrong at the circled area.

it's possible things were going wrong before that, and because of human error the ship
ended up in a bad place at the wrong time. should have never left port IMO hindsight is always 20/20

my main point is, you can't drop an anchor in a bay that's been dredged for over 100yrs and expect it
to stop you anytime soon.

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Just remember the video showed it going under the bridge…dead… side ways but missed it. You can see the engine come back online by huge black smoke ….power back up and turned around it goes back opposite direction to hit the bridge.

FRANCIS SCOTT KEY BRIDGE COLLAPSE LARGER VIEW source below. Vital Shipping port disrupted.

https://youtu.be/EMN8aHB7Cds?si=7-kQLTtcLN-PWCMu for having no power that shipped turned about face as lights go on and diesel engine smoke billows as it turns directly into the bridge piling. this was a Ukranian cargo ship. headline read BALTIMOR…

www.bitchute.com

In the video the engine is being worked hard black smoke is pouring….. remember it had floated by under the bridge and would have kept going. The anchor would taken long time to stop it. Like trying to to stop a train they take forever to stop because of the weight momentum. But again that ship floated under sideway engine power shown by black smoke. Came back and hit bridge.

 

[TommySr]

However if a evil organization was hellbent to destroy a country"s super power using "death by a thousand cuts" it is at least plausible.

grizzzman, not sure you need all that when dealing with people, they'll shoot themselves in the foot every time.

 

[D71]

There fixed it The Dali did a 180 then hit the bridge under power

 

[TommySr]

There fixed it The Dali did a 180 then hit the bridge under power

D71, now I see it.

 

[D71]

It should have been treated as if a terrorist incident had occurred until proven otherwise. The govt relayed it could take up to 2 years for discovery - total horse shit. The crew was still onboard running around … 1 taken to hospital brought back to ship.

NTSB chair says investigators boarded Dali ship overnight and recovered its data recorder

The bodies of two of the construction workers who died after a 984-foot-long cargo ship hit a pillar of Baltimore's Francis Scott Key Bridge have been recovered, officials said Wednesday.

edition.cnn.com

The tsa will rape you in an airport this should be the same way for treatment until proven not terrorist. There is rumor of 2 minutes missing from recorder and they stated the throttle and such is not even shown. What kind of bs is that? We used 4 track tapes to record locomotive that recorded every vital 40 years ago then swapped to 8 track. They are fucking lying. Or most shoddy shit on the planet. Period. I vote lying.

Where are pictures of crew and pilots?

If these had been white ppl we’d know what their family looked like and their dead uncles aunties from 3 generations ago.

This bs did not happen this way. The ship went under bridge sideways doing 180 under power came back hit the bridge. News media are putting out bs. The proof is in the video shared earlier….it shows the ship..

This is a lie it did not veer over and hit it went under sideways came back. Watch the video. Look at black smoke out of stack.

Watch the video…. That is the original video shown on tv then they started posting the other video angle. Looks like ship just veered. It did not.
Video….it was amazing watching it spin under the bridge doing the 180 turn…..they said the dropped anchor helped to cause the 180 turn. You can see the black smoke rolling from exhaust as if accelerating or firing up.

FRANCIS SCOTT KEY BRIDGE COLLAPSE LARGER VIEW source below. Vital Shipping port disrupted.

https://youtu.be/EMN8aHB7Cds?si=7-kQLTtcLN-PWCMu for having no power that shipped turned about face as lights go on and diesel engine smoke billows as it turns directly into the bridge piling. this was a Ukranian cargo ship. headline read BALTIMOR…

www.bitchute.com

 

[grizzzman]

There fixed it The Dali did a 180 then hit the bridge under power

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You need to check your meds dude.

 

[D71]

You need to check your meds dude.

Did you watch the original video or the other one?

FRANCIS SCOTT KEY BRIDGE COLLAPSE LARGER VIEW source below. Vital Shipping port disrupted.

https://youtu.be/EMN8aHB7Cds?si=7-kQLTtcLN-PWCMu for having no power that shipped turned about face as lights go on and diesel engine smoke billows as it turns directly into the bridge piling. this was a Ukranian cargo ship. headline read BALTIMOR…

www.bitchute.com

 

[klystron]

Just remember the video showed it going under the bridge…dead… side ways but missed it. You can see the engine come back online by huge black smoke ….power back up and turned around it goes back opposite direction to hit the bridge.

FRANCIS SCOTT KEY BRIDGE COLLAPSE LARGER VIEW source below. Vital Shipping port disrupted.

https://youtu.be/EMN8aHB7Cds?si=7-kQLTtcLN-PWCMu for having no power that shipped turned about face as lights go on and diesel engine smoke billows as it turns directly into the bridge piling. this was a Ukranian cargo ship. headline read BALTIMOR…

www.bitchute.com

In the video the engine is being worked hard black smoke is pouring….. remember it had floated by under the bridge and would have kept going. The anchor would taken long time to stop it. Like trying to to stop a train they take forever to stop because of the weight momentum. But again that ship floated under sideway engine power shown by black smoke. Came back and hit bridge.

You can compare GE images of the bridge with satellite and other images of the ship after the collision and see that the ship was traveling southeast when it hit the bridge. It never traveled under the bridge.

As to other comments regarding the use of the rudder during power loss... a ship's rudder is far less effective without power than it is with the props pushing water past it because that prop wash is traveling much faster than the ship is moving through the water.

 

[TommySr]

a ship's rudder is far less effective without power than it is with the props pushing water past it because that prop wash is traveling much faster than the ship is moving through the water.

klystron, IMO the props were turning, but I believe the black smoke was the prop turning backwards, trying
to stop the ship when rudder control was lost .

 

[42OhmsPA]

Maybe the black smoke was backup generators starting trying to restore power? I'd assume they have redundant power.

The data missing from the black box was due to the power outage, audio was available the whole time because of redundant power; at least it's what we're being told. I'd tend to agree with it.
If the instruments don't have power they can't provide data.

 

[TommySr]

Maybe the black smoke was backup generators starting trying to restore power?

42OhmsPA, possible, but too much smoke for a generator for backup electrical power IMO.

 

[TommySr]

the first question that pops into my head, why would mr bannon want D71 to think
that something nefarious, or a conspiracy was involved in that bad situation?
what's in it for him? why would he do that to D71?

my guess, mr bannon is a bloodsucking tick.