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Fox Business. Says thatI cant read that site, possibly malicious.
Fox Business. Says thatI cant read that site, possibly malicious.
Is this fantasy Tax for NEW or USED or BOTH vehicles?A new v8 is pretty much a luxury vehicle now days. Do luxury vehicles need to be affordable to everyone?
Most would pay half that as affordable is a 4 banger. Remember the gas guzzler tax? It was a bit before its time.
Imagine the premium on a billionaire getting v12 Bugatti or similar. That would be horrible.
Toyota is pushing hard into conventional hybrids (HEVs) which cannot be plugged in. At least in the US, Sienna minivans have been HEV-only for a few years. Camry will be HEV-only starting sometime this year. Globally they aim to be ~40% HEV this year.Yes Toyota is pushing hard into hybrids versus a pure EV push and it's just matching what the market is demanding. EV still doesn't cut it for many use cases so having a decent size hybrid that lets you charge at home for local commutes for very cheap but still has the gas engine available for longer trips.
They're flailing in EVs, though not as badly as GM. Both survive mainly because of the Chicken Tax. Both keep shrinking, though.Ford .....
Fox Business. Says that
"Nine states plan to ban gas-powered car sales by 2035"
No doubt, but that is the way I like to travel. If I wanted to get somewhere fast, I would fly. That is clearly one of the reasons you should not buy an EV.Every video shows it takes much longer to do a long trip across country in an EV vs ICE.
yea not to mention who does long distance trips all the time? 1% of people? 0.1% of people? probably less, 1 in 1000 seems like a lot. Probably 1 in 10,000 do them multiple times a year.No doubt, but that is the way I like to travel. If I wanted to get somewhere fast, I would fly. That is clearly one of the reasons you should not buy an EV.
If the majority of someone's driving is long distance / off the beaten track, then I agree.For local stuff I’m sure the EV is fine.
Long distance not so much.
Ah, that explains it. I was right.Wow. It’s Fox business news.
Seems like a lot for a used vehicle. Maybe $10 per cylinder on the annual registration.Is this fantasy Tax for NEW or USED or BOTH vehicles?
Pretty straightforward question.
This statement sounds like what the government told me in 1985 about my pickup truck that I purchased new in 1984.All gas cars already on the road will be allowed to stay
Yea I don’t think flying is such a good idea either now a days.No doubt, but that is the way I like to travel. If I wanted to get somewhere fast, I would fly. That is clearly one of the reasons you should not buy an EV.
Don’t even know what to say about that.Ah, that explains it. I was right.
You can still drive your lead required truck with regular gas, it's just bad for the pistons without lead cushion effectThis statement sounds like what the government told me in 1985 about my pickup truck that I purchased new in 1984.
"Don't worry we are going to remove the lead from gasoline but you can still drive your new truck because some gas stations will still sell leaded gasoline"
Nope
Or again in 2006 "Don't worry, we are taking the sulfur out of the diesel fuel but you engine will be fine without it"
I guess the engine designs did not need those lubricants?
Uh huh..but you would if you could.Seems like a lot for a used vehicle. Maybe $10 per cylinder on the annual registration.
You seem to be missing the point. And BTW I don't make the laws. So it is just mental gymnastics. Don't strain yourself.
You totally missed the point. The point is, it is being forced.Toyota's PHEV is wise as they will still be allowed to be sold well after 2035 according to the california regulations.
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This means toyota has to change their assembly the least vs completely overhauling it to do electric only
Governor Newsom Announces California Will Phase Out Gasoline-Powered Cars & Drastically Reduce Demand for Fossil Fuel in California’s Fight Against Climate Change | California Governor
Executive order directs state to require that, by 2035, all new cars and passenger trucks sold in California be zero-emission vehicles Transportation currently accounts for more than 50 percent of…www.gov.ca.gov
This isn't really that intense. That's 11 years away
The EV market is going to be massively different in 11 years, and the transition will probably be virtually nothing at the rate they're going. The new cars sold will probably be like 2% gas by then.
All gas cars already on the road will be allowed to stay
That was my original point to taxing the bad instead of credits for the good. Easier to balance the budget.I do find it funny how we all (me too) will purchase something like an EV or a solar system so we can get that tax credit. Nothing like buying crap to get paid back with your own money that the govt originally took from you to begin with. Like a vicious circle.
It was the valve seats on the gas motors that took a beating.You can still drive your lead required truck with regular gas, it's just bad for the pistons without lead cushion effect
That's one thing that is good it was gone, and it took way too long. It's sad some airplanes still use leaded gas.
and diesel engines are fine without sulfur lmao, just run biodiesel from mcdonalds like a man. Takes nothing to run that
Yep. I'll believe that when I see it. Remember the California ZEV mandate?Fox Business. Says that
"Nine states plan to ban gas-powered car sales by 2035"